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YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

There is no First Amendment right to overturn an election

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There is no First Amendment right to overturn an election

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YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Trump’s lawyers plan to argue he had a First Amendment right to subvert the 2020 election. He didn’t.
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    Imagine not wanting free and fair elections because your ideology has been soundly rejected by the silent majority.

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      I mean, notorious conservative apologist David Frum is the one who said it out loud:

      “If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

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        conservative apologist

        Isn’t he just a conservative? I know he likes to pretend that Trump gave him serious distaste for some of the more extreme parts of modern conservatism, but - considering the blood on Frum’s hands - I’m not buying it. Am I getting him confused with a different Bush speech writer or perhaps a different Iraq war cheerleader?

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          I refer to him that way because you don’t see a lot of the others out desperately trying to make arguments that conservativism is a logically viable political stance. People like DeSantis know their views are shit; they just don’t care. Frum cares; he’s just wildly wrong.

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            Isn’t Frum an ex conservative? He realized what conservatives were really about and then became a Democrat?

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              Oh gods no! He would never stoop so low:

              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/never-trumpers-democrats-now/620055/

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          Los dos

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        And we are living through that right now.

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      Conservatism. It’s in the name. Fighting change, halting evolution of our species.

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        This is isn’t conservationism though. They’re not trying to maintain the status quo. They’re trying to go backwards.

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          Regressive? Aggressive regressive?

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            Yes, I’ve been calling Republicans regressives for a while now.

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      Nuh-uh! That’s the elites! We’re the silent majority… which is why we had to sabotage the election. It makes perfect sense.

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      Their ideology is to not want free and fair elections.

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