The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

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    There’s no such thing as a “vaccine skeptic”.
    Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they’re still “skeptical” despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves “skeptics” because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.

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      they try to downplay anti-vaxxers, thats what they really are, this include vaccine hesitency.

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      Any paper showing Vaccines don’t cause Autism is immediately disregarded as “propaganda from the far left”

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    Wouldn’t that involve them causing autism to prove it does?

    “I’m autistic because I was a test subject for a government op…”

    bruh…

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      Honestly there is an even darker side to this.

      There are parents who would rather see there kid die from a preventable disease than have Autism.

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      Plot twist: they scale up the study nationwide, offering free flu vaccines to anyone who “volunteers” for the study as long as they take an autism test before and after.

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    WaPo strikes again with a plausibly deniable disinformation title, using the word “skeptic” wrong on purpose. I expect nothing less from Bezos.

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    “You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back

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      And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!

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      And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.

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    These people have co-opted the work “skeptic”.

    I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god’s role in my life, now I’m agnostic.

    My parents became “skeptical” of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer “skeptical” but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

    I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find “proof” of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

    They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

    The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their “independent” researchers (crunchy influencers).

    🤮

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Don’t worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won’t be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents’ hypocrisy for what it is.

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      When you’re agnostic you’re just a closet atheist. It’s not that atheists are sure there is no god, we’re not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don’t have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn’t a god. Just be a nice person and you’ll be fine.

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        This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.

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          In practice they’re exactly the same. Atheists don’t say anything differently than agnostics

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        I’m agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

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          So do I, what’s your point?

          If you say that you believe in God, then you’re not agnostic. If you don’t believe in God, you’re an atheist. Atheist, agnostic, in practice it’s the exact same thing

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            If I were an atheist then I would say there is no God, no afterlife, no soul, none of that.

            I am agnostic because I haven’t seen evidence that I should rule it out nor accept it as gospel. Pun slightly intended.

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              It’s again the same thing. Could there be a soul? It hasn’t been proven either way so yeah, it’s possible, but in all likelihood it’s just bogus.

              Either way, atheists and agnostics say the exact same things, atheists are just clearer about the message

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                Again, my beliefs aren’t your beliefs.

                I’m not an “Atheist in denial”, I am someone who doesn’t see significant evidence to rule out things humanity is incapable of understanding they may be similar in concept to God or a soul

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                  I apologize if I made you feel like I was pushing something on you.

                  I’m merely trying to say that the teo are pretty much the same. I was like you, calling myself agnostic until I read this line “agnostics are just closet atheists” and that rung a bell with me.

                  My beliefs didn’t change, I just call myself atheist now.

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        I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don’t know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

        But that’s just me.

        I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the “Faith”: I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

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    I never thought I’d have a gov that had a health dept that was determined to make me sick. I expect things to be occasionally suppressed, bias, and flawed studies but not a deliberate effort. It is like they put the Phillip Morris tobacco company in charge.

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    If the word “skeptic” in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It’s good to be skeptic about everything until you’re shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren’t really skeptic.

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      Yeah, he’s a liar, not a skeptic. He’s denying evidence, not demanding it.

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      Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic

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      People decide to believe something and then look for evidence

      Like or not that’s the human thing to do. Breaking out of that mindset is hard.

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    Headline later…

    90% of people with autism were vaccinated! Vaccines cause autism!

    Actual data later

    90% of the population is vaccinated. The rate of autism in the 90% and remaining unvaccinated 10% is exactly the same.

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    Next up, UFO conspiracists will determine if alien UFOs are real, Kennedy assassination conspiracists will review the Kennedy files.