Unrelated, but I find it weird that DeepSeek refuses to tell me about Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. It will auto-delete / block the message it’s trying to reply with. Does this also happen for you? Like “Can you explain Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for me?”.
It’s not that I’m not familiar with SwCC, but I was more interested in learning about the inherited or trained bias in the DeepSeek model, vs western biased LLMs. But thank you regardless!
in a way deepseek answered your question, that’s the trained bias in deepseek x)
they decided to stop it from answering any vaguely political questions (sometimes it still goes through but it’s a chore) which sucks because their online search is really good now that it’s back, but you can’t search for current events or history because it will block most of it.
edit: the official reasoning is they want it to be for science, e.g. math etc. Which is fair (I’m vocal about telling people not to use these word prediction machines for their opinions!), but also blocking searching like this really sucks. Every other engine, whether AI or non-AI, just links you to fucking Wikipedia all the time. In case you’re the one person in the world who knows how to use chatGPT but doesn’t know what Wikipedia is.
Could be they try to block explicit politics in general, for “broader audience, pretense of neutrality” reasons. Or it may be they don’t want it providing misinformation on such sensitive topics; language models can easily “hallucinate” (make stuff up with a confidently wrong attitude, either because they don’t know or because of a slight misstep in token probability). Also possible they are trying to catch certain kinds of things that aren’t that and it hit a false positive on your attempt. Hard to say for sure with these models, without knowing their stated intentions (if they have any publicly stated to begin with).
I have asked that question before when I was first made aware of the app and it answered very succinctly! Now it starts to answer and replaces with the “that is outside of my current scope” message. Later when I have time I may try messing around with VPNs. I was really excited that it gave so much detail and context.
Unrelated, but I find it weird that DeepSeek refuses to tell me about Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. It will auto-delete / block the message it’s trying to reply with. Does this also happen for you? Like “Can you explain Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for me?”.
Roland Boer wrote a book
https://archive.org/details/socialism-with-chinese-characteristics
It’s not that I’m not familiar with SwCC, but I was more interested in learning about the inherited or trained bias in the DeepSeek model, vs western biased LLMs. But thank you regardless!
in a way deepseek answered your question, that’s the trained bias in deepseek x)
they decided to stop it from answering any vaguely political questions (sometimes it still goes through but it’s a chore) which sucks because their online search is really good now that it’s back, but you can’t search for current events or history because it will block most of it.
edit: the official reasoning is they want it to be for science, e.g. math etc. Which is fair (I’m vocal about telling people not to use these word prediction machines for their opinions!), but also blocking searching like this really sucks. Every other engine, whether AI or non-AI, just links you to fucking Wikipedia all the time. In case you’re the one person in the world who knows how to use chatGPT but doesn’t know what Wikipedia is.
Could be they try to block explicit politics in general, for “broader audience, pretense of neutrality” reasons. Or it may be they don’t want it providing misinformation on such sensitive topics; language models can easily “hallucinate” (make stuff up with a confidently wrong attitude, either because they don’t know or because of a slight misstep in token probability). Also possible they are trying to catch certain kinds of things that aren’t that and it hit a false positive on your attempt. Hard to say for sure with these models, without knowing their stated intentions (if they have any publicly stated to begin with).
Probably yes :)
I have asked that question before when I was first made aware of the app and it answered very succinctly! Now it starts to answer and replaces with the “that is outside of my current scope” message. Later when I have time I may try messing around with VPNs. I was really excited that it gave so much detail and context.
It answers that prompt for me without issue
Using API or their chat.deepseek.com? I just get this:
On their app, I just typed “explain socialism with Chinese characteristics”