• kevin@programming.dev
      4·
      2 years ago

      Yep, you send me html, my browser can interpret it any way that I want it to. If I want to ignore all of the image and script tags, I can. I don’t need Chrome or even Chromium. As Stallman says, you should know what is running on your system.

  • Chatotorix@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    2 years ago

    Like, seriously, went through the last 10 years spending a good chunk of my day on Twitter and Reddit using Chrome, and suddenly I’m on Lemmy/Mastodon on Firefox.

    • Powerpoint@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      This is my exact change. They want to shittify things I’ll switch or just stop using it. I’m at my breaking point.

      • Chatotorix@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        I won’t lie that it’s been an adjustment. Old habits die hard. Reddit is the one that I am more certainly done with. No one is on Mastodon yet so I do browse Twitter a little bit to get updates on the stuff I like, but don’t interact there anymore.

        • pietervdvn@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Well, best thing to counter that is to be the change you want to see. Start the community for the niche you miss the most/know the most about. Post something daily for two weeks + do a call for mods, and before you know you’ll have at least some activity. I (helped) to bootstrap !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml this way, and the community has about 1 top level post per day on average now. Not a lot, but a good start.

      • FluffyToaster621@lemm.ee
        0·
        2 years ago

        Firefox uses their own engine IIRC, that’s why more people should be using it so we can get some competition with Chromium.

        • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi
          0·
          2 years ago

          I think the management’s recent decisions, as well as the removal/lack of power-user features for those users, have moved a lot of people away from Firefox, myself included. They really need to focus on providing really good software, not get caught up in trying to chase trends or forcing services people don’t want. This WIRED article does a good job explaining the issues.

          I am keeping an eye on Pulse Browser, which is an experimental fork of Firefox with uBlock Origin pre-installed and some UI customisations. They’ve got a sidebar with “web panels” very much like Vivaldi’s Panels, and they’ve got vertical tabs like Edge. People also seem to be posting suggestions to their discussion page on GitHub. It’s early days, but if they listen and try to implement some of the suggested features to their best ability, it could be a much better Firefox than Firefox itself.

          Edit: From Pulse’s Discord, I just found out Mozilla bought Fakespot and are integrating that into Firefox. Some people are definitely going to think that’s bloat.

  • raidenfox@lemmy.ml
    5·
    2 years ago

    tbh I’m just tired of all of this, we can’t have nice things, ever… Every fucking thing in this world is being swallowed by corporate greed. Every service there’s a catch, and I’m getting mad with it, things aren’t made to serve their purpose, they only exist to make money and more money for people who already have infinite money, it’s frustrating. Things need to change or everything is going to collapse… fuck companies, fuck billionaires, fuck stocks, fuck all of this

      • MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        2 years ago

        I get your sentiment, but chrome 1 was crazy fast and seemed barely functional coming from a world of toolbars for most people.

        At the time people were like “I can’t use this, there’s only this search bar”

    • limecool@lemmy.ml
      02·
      2 years ago

      That may be true on desktop. But, unfortunately, the mobile app is way behind chromium. From being unresponsive, to outright buggy. It’s not a good experince. It’s been 2 years since the rewrite but it’s not getting much better or even close to fixing most of its issue. Meaning, using firefox on android is a handicap on yourself.

      • verdigris@lemmy.ml
        1·
        2 years ago

        Gonna need some statistics on this, because your anecdotal experience is not at all like mine. FF is totally useable on Android.

      • Perfide@reddthat.com
        1·
        2 years ago

        Are you kidding?! Firefox on android isn’t just better than Chrome in feature set, as it has been for like a decade, it’s been faster than Chrome for at least a year, in my personal experience.

      • CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml
        1·
        2 years ago

        As someone who has used Firefox on Android for 9 years plus… “lol, wut?!”

        It was bad, 7 years ago, and has been solid for at least 4 years.

      • bipmi@beehaw.org
        0·
        2 years ago

        Ive used FF on my android phone for years and had no noteworthy issues the entire time, not sure what youre on about

        • limecool@lemmy.ml
          0·
          2 years ago

          I’m talking about the tab reload issue. Check my reply to other comment. Where I link issues. Basically you cannot fill forms, multi task or do stuff without the tab reloading on you. This issue has been ongoing since 2020. I changed phones but this issue did not change once. Permalink to that comment: https://lemmy.ml/comment/2013238

          • bipmi@beehaw.org
            0·
            2 years ago

            Ive never had any issue like that to be honest, and I have been using FF literally daily for years. Most of my social circle are yucky apple product users so I haven’t even heard of this issue until now. Im sorry you and other people have it because tbh FF is basically perfect, at least for what I need it for

            • limecool@lemmy.ml
              1·
              2 years ago

              Thanks for acknowledging the issue. I’m on android which could make some difference. I install Firefox with ublock origin as good adblocking solution for others. Most do not appear to notice this issue so it’s not a problem. Hopefully, it’s fixed for the ones experiencing this issue.

      • Yttra@lemmy.world
        02·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, to be honest the FF Android experience just can’t match Chromium.

        I don’t really NEED to, so I’m not switching from Firefox anytime soon, but I wish they’d at least fix recently closed tabs reappearing every time I reopen the darned thing…

  • Zinggi57@lemmy.world
    4·
    2 years ago

    I think a lot of people here don’t understand the danger of this fully and dismiss it with “Just use Firefox, problem solved”.
    Unfortunately, once this becomes widely available, that is once Chrome ships it, websites will start to use it.
    Maybe Amazon will just not sell to you anymore when you’re browsing with Firefox?
    Maybe YouTube wont serve any videos if you’re using Linux?
    Your bank will certainly implement this and only allow Windows 11 with Edge or some shit like that.
    Once this is implemented, we will all suffer, even if we’re using better alternatives right now.

    • Ember Ushi@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      2 years ago

      > Your bank will certainly implement this

      My brother in Christ, it was 2020 before my bank supported passwords longer than 8 characters. We have 30 or 40 years before we need to worry about the banks.

      • vaultdweler13@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 years ago

        Some banks are still running windows 98 internally, admitedly so long as said system isnt connected to the internet it should be fine.

    • Matt@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      Technically the idea is that if Chrome has barely any market share (will never happen, but let’s pretend), they cannot implement this as it will anger and lock too many users out of day to day life.

      However…

      With Google Search and YouTube being by far the most 2 popular websites in the world, I think they still could. The vast majority of people would never give those up and if they’re told to use another program to access them, they absolutely will, meaning in an ideal world with a browser competition, they can easily destroy it immediately.

      • Regelfall@feddit.de
        1·
        2 years ago

        Google search has become very bad and is easily replaced by basically any search engine. YouTube is still unparalleled though.

    • llcoolvm@feddit.de
      0·
      2 years ago

      Did Firefox even say that they would not implement it as well? Are there any informations on that?

  • artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 years ago

    Ah yes, 2023. The year I wore a pirate hat and touched more grass. Soon they’ll be bribing the govt to make going outside illegal.

    • RhetoricalOrator@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 years ago

      Honestly, reddits API change was an awful thing to do but my phone usage has plummeted since then. I’ve been trying Lemmy but it’s not been an easy 1:1 replacement and I find myself not engaging or feeling so invested in conversations and content as much.

      That works in my favor, though, because I really have been spending way too much time looking at screens anyway.

      • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        2 years ago

        Most corporate media tries to get you to spend too much time on their apps/sites. Getting on the fediverse felt like moving on from a toxic ex.

    • explodicle@local106.com
      1·
      2 years ago

      You jest but I’m feeling pretty ready to switch to mesh networking. I’d rather have a libre internet than faster bandwidth.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
    1·
    2 years ago

    I’m used to dealing with DRM, too. If it can be stripped out of a game or other software, it could be stripped out of the internet itself. Maybe some of the old cracking scenes that quit due to boredom will return for the challenge.

    • PeWu@lemmy.ml
      1·
      2 years ago

      You can be sure as hell they will. If greater the force, the greater the resistance.

      • Trarmp@feddit.nl
        1·
        2 years ago

        It’s interesting to think about from a technological point of view, and there could be multiple ingress points to combat it.

        The proposal doesn’t have a complete implementation, but it in essence they want websites to ask browsers for a key if sorts (attestation). In theory this flow would be a lot like hoe notifications work. Keeping that in mind, when the website asks the browser, what’s stopping us from making our own attestation server?