And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:
Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).
If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.
Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.
So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!
You can take a look around here on [email protected] for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation
On bans and censorships:
https://lemmy.world/post/28480760
https://lemmy.world/post/28481615
https://lemmy.world/post/28482147
https://lemmy.world/post/28480936
https://lemmy.world/post/28482273
https://lemmy.world/post/28481272
https://lemmy.world/post/28481064
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
Allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/28275465
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
“concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
I tried to tolerate .ml because they’ve got some good linux and foss focused communities. Ultimately I decided it wasn’t worth it.
Thanks for the heads up, just added to my block list.
I bet none of yee losers will have the time to actually maintains Lemmy’s code after the original creators give up.
Stop using Lemmy > accepting russian propaganda.
It’s not a difficult choice to make, mate
Then stop using it.
“Known propaganda outlets (like RT)”
Sorry but… What’s RT mean in this context? Rooster Teeth? I’ve got no clue.
RT stands for Russia Today.
Thank you for answering
It’s those damn Reds, again.
I can’t tell if “reds” means communists or if this post was written by Church.
I joined Lemmy in November. By New Years I had independently figured out what was wrong with .ml and its users.
The less of that garbage, the better.
Like it or not, we can shine a light and hope they see.
I am as libertarian (as opposed to authoritarian) as they come, and I still hope I (and others who share my sentiment) will be able to convince them the merits of a world with human rights, diplomacy, and freedom — that is not needlessly violent and forceful.
We can move past barbarism, but to do so we must define what comes next to those who have shut their hearts to the truth — especially to those who have spent too much time reliving the horrific violence of the 20th century.
I don’t need to boycott them, I don’t feel the need to block them. Everybody is within their rights to do so though, but I will keep slowly trying to win them over to the idea of a more kind and free world.
Creating Lemmy and the fediverse is of incredible value to humanity. They provided a timely medicine to the internet — a decentralized platform that is not controlled by an American corporation and ruled by algorithms. I don’t feel like it’s a lost cause to do my best.
I’m kinda still new here, so thanks for the info! I think I’ve figured out how to block the instance, but is there a guide on blocking or something or a way to check?
You cannot block an entire instance in Lemmy today. The best you can do is block seeing posts from that instance in your timeline. The users are still free to send you death threats. The Lemmy devs have promised this feature later in the year, but given how it will likely be used against their .ml instance most liberally, and they will have fewer victims to attack, I am dubious it ever gets released.
Usually clients have some option to do it but the steps might be different based on what client you’re using.
Right now I’m on Voyager for example and if let’s say I wanted to block your instance I could click your profile and click the options. One of the options on that screen is “View Instance” and from there I have the option to block the instance.
There’s also post filters but I know a lot less about setting those up. But iirc one of the things you can filter posts by is the instance the post comes from.
> dotworld user
Pot calling the kettle shit tbh
Yeah these idiots banned u/Dead_or_alive for litteral genocide apologia (saying shit like “palestinians deserve it”.
Then he got unbanned a few hours later.
Blahaj user
Shit calling the manure rank tbh
What’s wrong with blahaj? I thought they were one of the cool servers.
Switching accounts will result in the same for many of these grubworms, as they will simply be blocked at the individual level when they start saying shit that nobody wants to hear.
There’s a lot of clueless users though, it’d be good to have them join the rest of us outside that shithole
What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level. It is very buggy in some instances. I also wish that when a user that is blocked or banned from an instance or the user of a comment or a post they are replying to, it would indicate so. It isn’t that there is no reply to what they are saying, it’s that we are not bothering with it, and that would make it obvious when it happens.
What I wish is that you didn’t need to depend on your instance to block other instances so much, but that it was easier to block comments and posts coming from those instances at a personal level.
You can block any instance in your account settings, same as communities or users.
cause nobody wants to get dragged into a ten page discussion about why China and Russia are the most democratic countries in the world
I actually like seeing their posts on my main account. It allows me to keep up with their lingua franca, so I can more easily identify their alts on normal instances, so I know not to attempt to engage in good faith.
Every time a ml/hexbear community that I might be interested in pops up on my feed, I block it, then manually search for a non-tankie version of the same thing and immediately subscribe. The amount of pro-authoritarian content I’ve been exposed to has dramatically dropped.
I just instance blocked them, good riddance. Too bad I do occasionally have to see posts from their users on other instances.
I just instance blocked them
How do?
On the website, you can go to your profile and there should be a list of blocked instances you can add them to
You can block the users too! At least on connect, and I think on voyager as well.
I’m on boost and it doesn’t have that option (I think)
You can do it one user at a time, I don’t think you can block all of them.
In a recent discussion in the Matrix chat, it was mentioned that donations to support development have recently fallen off quite steeply. I mentioned my reason for not donating anymore is because I can’t support anyone who runs an instance like .ml. @[email protected] said I could donate directly to him since he doesn’t do as much moderation over there, but also mentioned that donations for development go towards server costs for .ml. Hell no.
Glavset must be tightening its belt.
Nutomic also said that trans identity was western propaganda and has doubled down on that statement several times.
Are women bourgeois?
I really need to play disco elysium
You see comrade everyone gets their assigned gender in the gender line at the age of 10, is simple no?
Read this in a shitty Russian accent that is slowly becoming a vaguely Ukrainian accent because I have played too much Stalker.
Also nutomic is a transphobe
https://lemmy.ml/post/18761554
Which is reason enough to not give them any money in my book
I could donate directly to him since he doesn’t do as much moderation over there
I’m in the modlog a lot so I can confirm that that is true, however, like @[email protected] mentioned, he shares a transphobic flavor of their mindset sooo yea
but also mentioned that donations for development go towards server costs for .ml. Hell no.
LMAO “Donate directly to me and you won’t have to worry about it! Butttt it’ll still go to the exact thing you’re opposed to.”
@[email protected] said I could donate directly to him since he doesn’t do as much moderation over there
Having observed a few different types of small team dynamics in my time, my speculation from a distance is that nutomic is the sensible one who does the bulk of the actual work, and dessalines is the other one.
He kind of has my sympathy and I do like Lemmy as software and it is clearly a good thing, but at the same time, at this point in the world if someone on your team is working to silence anyone who talks about Russia in unflattering terms, you can go fuck yourself as far as I am concerned. I am happy their instance is failing and I hope it keeps on failing until they stop doing legwork for murder, tyranny, rape, and torture. Honestly, “I wish my internet place had more users and people didn’t make fun of me so much” is a pretty mild negative consequence to experience from that.
Nutomic thinks trans people are bourgeois propaganda
Given how the tankie mind works, that probably means that they are actually russian propaganda.
Lol good point
Nutomic is .ml, not doing much moderation is an excuse probably because he has underlings to do it for him.
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I got banned to 40 days from .ml memes for arguing that the republicans were worse than the democrats or something mild like that.
They sure screech about democrats and then it’s just silence for republicans.
“Arguing against the far right party? That’s a no-no for our leftist instance!”
Remember, a true socialist will criticize Democrats and say nothing about Republicans (except agree with them about gifting Ukraine to Russia)
TheY’rE bOTh tHE SamE
I find it time and again.
In the USA their is only one party and that is the imperialist war mongering party
I mean, I take your point, but how about you make it without literally contradicting reality?
Posted from your Alt account, lol.
