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      12 days ago

      I loved the movement years ago to shop male nipples over female nipples and post the end results. I mean, letter on the law and stuff, right?

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      11 days ago

      It’s weird that a man topless is fine for pg movies, even G probably. But a woman topless shoots it right up to R. Though Titanic was PG-13. I assume it was more relaxed at the time?

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        11 days ago

        It happened now and then, but it’s mostly because James Cameron gets to do whatever he wants. Any rando director and it’s an R rating. If PG-13 movies get to show a female-presenting nipple at all, like the Fifth Element, they will be very brief, often from the side, and may not even be in focus. They’re probably not using makeup or other techniques to make the nipples stand out.

        Same with Wolf of Wall Street, but on the next level up. Scorsese directs and argues against an NC-17 rating (which is considered a box office death sentence).

        Hollywood is a very nepotistic industry, and the ratings system is no exception. Most of the rules for ratings aren’t even written down. There are unwritten rules that even the general public figures out (like only getting one f-bomb in a PG-13 movie), but they can be cast aside when a major director or producer gets on the phone and causes a fuss.

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        11 days ago

        There are quite a few PG-13 where women are topless. Boobs don’t automatically get an R rating. Everything else being equal, I believe it has to be topless in a sexual context to elicit an R rating.

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          11 days ago

          There are quite a few PG-13 where women are topless.

          I cannot think of any others… Do you have any examples?

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            11 days ago

            There used to be a <1 second time limit in which brief nudity didn’t apply.

            There’s honestly no shortage.

            Here are some examples:

            Saturn 3 (1980) had a little bit

            Airplane! (1980) A woman hops into frame and out of frame completely topless for a second around 45 minutes in.

            Ragtime (1981)

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              I wouldn’t count those, as I suggested things have shifted. I remember watching a 1980s film that was pg at most and considered a kids show with swearing and people flipping the bird.

              I don’t think their is a single movie after Titanic with a full view topless female that isn’t R.

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                11 days ago

                The Fifth Element (1997)

                The Cider House Rules (1999)

                Something’s Gotta Give (2003)

                Across the Universe (2007)

                The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007)

                Passengers (2016)

                Asteroid City (2023)

                All of these are PG-13 and all feature female topless nudity. Just off the top of my head

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                suggested things have shifted. I remember watching a 1980s film that was pg at most and considered a kids show with swearing an

                There was a stink when Cameron released Titanic and pushed it through as PG-13, but it got overruled.

                We’ve been getting more and more worried about safety ratings for years, interesting for Minnesota to lead the way back to where most of the rest of the world rests.