idk sounds kind of authorioritaritan, why not just confront them in the marketplace of ideas
You can’t sell asbestos cotton candy at a marketplace of food. Authorities of public health regulate that shit out of our markets. Same public health oversight but with regulatory baseball bats.
guess the
☭in my display name wasn’t enough to imply sarcasmNo I got it, I was just building on the joke by playing opposition to your sarcasm.
noooooooooooooooooooooooo I ruined it
Don’t you see? You just got HORSESHOE THEORY’D!!!
I always like when people in our party are so invested in finding new ways to pwn the fascists in the marketplace of ideas. I’m sure the fascists are doing the same in their ‘self defence’ classes they are talking about.
those Nazis will surely realize that they’re being mean when confronted with poignant criticism
It sucks cause Julien, the guy on the right, is now at pro-Israel protests in Paris.
That’s a shame. Luckily there is a very active antifa movement in France right now, who are keeping the OG spirit of the Red Warriors alive.
That’s sad 😢 Btw do you have any sources where I can read about that?
I have it on good authority, but from a friend who heard it from friends or others. But I think it’s still a trustable source because it’s not super difficult to prove, even if it’s hearsay lol
there’s also some interviews of Red Warriors on youtube though in French, including Julien. He seemed more like an anarchist than a commuinist, he said he tried to join PCF but they wanted to give him reading and courses and he didn’t care much for it.
Real Cognitive Dissonance here, I am faced with new evidence that the Fr*nch can be based /s
Omg I’m lemmygrad famous 😳
I must admit I’m not on this level of based, LUSINE was something else
Btw, what do fr*nch history class text books say about Algeria
Not a lot, colonial history is treated like a secondary subject, at least it was in my time, maybe it changed a bit now.
The war with Algeria is mostly discussed around the event of De Gaulle doing something with the radio when the fascist fringe of the military rebelled against him for having connected two neurons and abandonned the war. Very lame, no word about the atrocities.
Expected
I don’t know. Tell me
idk, I am asking them, I never cared to read a french text book
They say “Algeria good, France bad”. Happy?
You are not the person I asked
BASED
Based on what?!
Instilling fear on their opposition (violent nazi fascist) and providing safe spaces for immigrants (people of color)
Based!
Looks like Double Dragon irl
So, the brownshirts, but under a different flag, and different justification, but with equal fervor. Check.
And I suppose that the Allied soldiers were just the Wehrmacht but under a different flag too by your logic?
If Stalin just followed a debate class and invited Hitler for a heckin epic rap battle, he wouldn’t have had to send the Red Army in
I mean, Patton was in the Allies, and you know what he was like
While he’s fighting Nazis I couldn’t care less what he is like
You seem to equate all of the Wehrmacht (which mainly consisted of very young conscripts, many of them malleable, uneducated and never having come in actual contact with people outside of their direct environment) with the horrible atrocities a powerful elite amongst then chose to carry out. If you do, I pity you. If you don’t, you might see the nuance that discredits your own strawman fallacy.
Clean Wehrmacht believer has entered the chat.
Paradox of tolerance… or paradox of intolerance? Point is appeasement doesn’t work and at the end of the day you have to be intolerant of the intolerant.
Good point. But then again that’s also the point the other side uses.
It is unfortunately a valid point. If one side is acting to physically harm you then politely asking them to stop is no longer sufficient.
Former military, so can’t say I do not agree in principle. (Though not based on political stance.)
“former” war criminal, that explains it
By all means be my guest and debate the fascists and Nazis who want to eradicate entire races while I will try other ways to defend myself
Like you don’t even understand where the Red Warriors (and other antifascists in France) even came from, you look like an absolute fool right now, bumbling around in the dark and hitting furniture every few steps, meanwhile people watch on you with their flashlights. That’s how you look.
Fascists used to (they still do, but they used to as well) co-opt everything. They started coming into punk shows which these bands of antifa activists used to go to, and started polluting them with their fascist crap. Then when people complained, the fascists would jump them.
There’s a documentary around where ex red warriors explain how they fought against fascists, they used to drive around Paris with baseball bats and other weapons and jump random people or antifascists. They wore jewellery that had edges to inflict damage on a punch. Some of them actually illegally carried guns on them.
I’m still talking about the fascists. What antifascists such as the red warriors did was to finally say enough is enough, we don’t want fascists making people scared to go to their shows and have fun, so they organised into their own gang and gave the fascists a taste of their own medicine. And it worked, fascists left the Parisian punk scene.
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Lol this guy still looks at surface level politics like a noob
Yeah I also believe that fascists and antifascists are morally equivalent. I am very smart.
