Are there communities, free software/open source or otherwise, using Lemmy as their forum software?
Nowadays, many use Discourse, some are on Zulip, and I just don’t care about the Discord ones. Would Lenmy not fit the same purposes? It is federated and easier to participate in, like mailing lists - no need to sign up per forum. Matrix is too, but it doesn’t seem to be made for long-form writing.
I believe Discourse was designed based on experience with community dynamics, and Zulip is well-designed too. Would something with federated participation like Lemmy not work as well?
Discourse already has an activitypub plugin
I’m open to the idea of using Lemmy for discussions, and feature requests, for my open-source software projects. My projects are on a self-hosted Forgejo instance and Forgejo currently lacks a discussion feature. But, unfortunately, none of my projects are popular enough to deserve a discussion board. 😭
The sad thing about forgejo servers is that our stuff might be popular if the projects were not so isolated. I want federation so bad but I feel like I was waiting for years now
I think the Forgejo project should be given some leniency when it comes to the development of its federation. After all, no other software forge has achieved such a feat as of this date, not even the likes of Gitlab.
The good news is that we don’t have to wait for Forgejo federation. We already have software, such as Lemmy, that can supplement as a federated discussion and issue board. To maintain an audit trail, just cross-reference between Forgejo issues and Lemmy posts as needed.
You can setup a Lemmy community and link it in all your project repos. Sooner or later people will show up.
Yeah, you’re right. I should start now instead of waiting for popularity to kick in (if ever). I’ve begun to create one community, per project, on my Lemmy instance.
Lemmy is a far better platform for discussions than Discourse in my opinion. The tree like sub-reply threads in each post (the Reddit concept) is preferable over a single thread of replies. You don’t need to cross quote and for readers no need to read the quote to see who and to what the reply is about. I don’t like Discourse discussion platforms at all.
However, Discourse has a few features that fits well for a discussion platform. I like the tags and Trust system of it.
I’m not aware of any such communities that run their forum on Lemmy.
I think it could fit, although Lemmy’s design as a link aggregation site gives it some rough edges for the purpose we’re discussing. For example, the search functions are a bit awkward to use, there is no support for subtopics, and file upload support is (from what I’ve seen) very limited.
On the other hand, Lemmy’s use of Markdown makes it more comfortable for text formatting than BBCode, which is the HTML-like markup used on many forums.
In what way is the search function in Lemmy awkward to use, is there anything specific that can be fixed? You are right about subtopics, and also Lemmy normally doesnt show discussions organized by topic on the frontpage. That can be changed though with different frontends like lemmyBB.
In what way is the search function in Lemmy awkward to use,
Generally, I find that it requires too many clicks.
To search for things I’m usually interested in, I have to click a link to reach the search page, wait for the page to load, click a drop-down box, select and click a target type from the list (e.g. “Posts”), click a scope (usually “Subscribed”), click another drop-down box, select and and click a date range from the list, and then enter my search. That’s a lot of steps.
(I could enter my search before selecting all those other things, of course, but it wouldn’t reduce the number of steps, and it would put extra load on the instance host by triggering multiple extra searches before the one that matters to me.)
Also, in certain cases like searching for a community by ID, there’s a weird glitch where the search yields no results at first, but clicking the Search button again gets the expected results.
is there anything specific that can be fixed?
Yes, I think the user friction could be improved in several ways.
I haven’t made a list of potential search improvements, but just off the top of my head, it would be convenient to have a simple search box in each community’s sidebar. Reddit had this back when I was using it, and it made checking for duplicates before submitting an article much more convenient than it is here.
EDIT 2:
It’s also inconvenient that the Community search field displays them in
example.org/community
format, rather than the normal!community@example.org
format, and fails to recognize input in the latter format. The slash format might be a little easier to type for a minority of people who expect it, but it’s surprising by being unfamiliar to everyone else, confusing by introducing a second format for community links, and counterproductive by defeating copy/paste of a community link from someplace else.My suggestion for this would be to standardize on
!community@example.org
format, and allow omitting the!
on input. It’s a dedicated input field just for community searches, after all, so the software shouldn’t need users to lead with a bang in order to know we’re searching for a community. Side benefit: Since this format places the community name before the domain, users could simply start typing the community name without having to remember what domain hosts it, and they would see useful autocomplete suggestions right away.EDIT 1:
Outside of search, the first thing I would suggest is making Lemmy readable without JavaScript. This would make it usable by people who disable scripts for security and privacy reasons*, and allow more search engines to index it, both of which would expand Lemmy’s reach and utility. And, since we’re talking about Lemmy as forum software for communities beyond the fediverse, this change would avoid imposing new requirements and vulnerabilities on communities whose web sites do not currently require JavaScript.
*Note that this matters not only for someone’s home instance, which might be whitelisted for scripts, but also when following links to other instances, which is pretty common in my experience.
I’ll second the community sidebar search. Almost all of my searches are searching for something from a specific community. Old habits die hard and I always end up navigating to the community, then going to search and finding myself having to search for the community again first.
There is forum software that’s integrated in the fediverse. Most often I’ve heard about NodeBB, which is open source and one can self-host it for free; there is even a YunoHost package.
I remember glancing at NodeBB (in my ignorance, I am averse to node.js). Activitypub seems to be an integration in it rather than its basis.
i miss actual forum software :(
i think i still have a vbulletin v3(?) zip from when i had a license back in the day
Vbulletin where fun to configure and tweak ! Some private trackers have still those old vbulletin vibes!
Sure. But network effect is a bitch.
Isn’t that where it’d shine? An organization could host their own Lemmy and anyone who has an account on any other instance can interact
Sure. But from the point of view of most people everyone (especially gamers) has a Discord account and nobody has a Lemmy account. Even a Mastodon account would suffice. But compared to Discord nobody uses these.
Oh, yeah, that part.
This was a lemmy frontend: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB