And I thought Americans were carbrained, holy shit.
(To be fair, he’s not wrong in that this is intended to keep the auto companies and the government nice and fat – but the obvious response to this is to agitate for better public transit, not railing against an environmentally sound policy.)
I’d be mad if the government forced me to get rid of my working car too. I think a better option would be to do something like not allow new gas cars to be manufactured or registered to people. Like stop issuing license plates for gas cars rather than forcing everyone to get rid of them.
It may not be carbrain so much as shitty car-centric infrastructure.
Certainly seems so. From the picture the OOP posted, it doesn’t look like there’s paved walkways
This dude is the one living in a fool’s paradise with infrastructure like that, and I say that as someone living in a fool’s paradise with infrastructure only a little better than that.
Isn’t it true that once a car is built, it’s basically better for the environment to drive it until its wheels fall off instead of scrapping it to buy any new one (even electric) though ? He’s right that a lot of the time these schemes are thinly veiled auto industry handouts to stimulate the economy, instead of actual environmental regulations.
The break even on carbon emissions from manufacture vs. daily use is somewhere between around 3 and 10 years. Big trucks on the low end.
better for the environment
Yes.
Better for your nerves? No.
Also you have to keep your vehicle in a state where it can drive safely, which leads to maintenance costs that rise over time. But safe for your environment as in the people around you, whether you reach your destination alive is of less importance.
Every 35000 km or 21000 miles a gasoline car going on average 20km/l or 47mpg why H have produced the same amount of CO2 that it takes to make an electric car.
So if over the lifetime of the car you go less than 35000km you shouldn’t be changing it with an electric. Otherwise please do 😁
How long is that offset including charging? I know that EVs are still significant better, but it’s not like the moment an EV rolls out that it’s carbon emissions stop.
The thing with EVs is that they get cleaner over time as cheap solar and batteries become a bigger part of the grid and old coal plants age out.
If you buy a diesel today, it’ll still be burning diesel in 2045.
depends where you are i guess. if you’re in a country with a high proportion of the grid being powered by renewables or nuclear then the emissions do become negligable as soon as it’s delivered.
France is 70% nuclear plus renewables etc
Bro your title is misleading.
Indian man upset that the government is forcing him to buy a new car
Your title makes the man sound like he’s complaining about his wife
That’s a fair point actually. I’ll change it
Sadly 1km is not the dumbest distant i have seen
Back when I walked my kids to school a parent who shared a fence with the school would drive them around a piece of grass the the front of the school and drop them of. The path through the grass was along side their side garden wall and shorter than the road they drove.
Of course it was a huge 4x4 to boot
I used to walk 500m round trip to nearby restaurant for lunch, everyone i met will comment on how far that is. Of course, i take it to heart and now drive my 4x4 there.
Nah just kidding, i now ride a bike, often 3.5km round trip for lunch.
I used to live next to some folk who would drive 300 metres to the gym
Yeah, that one always gets me: and then they run 5 miles on a treadmill.
I always thought the equipment should all be hooked up to some sort of generator somehow so that the place could turn all that energy being spent exercising into electricity for the lights etc. There could also be pancakes 🥞
I bet a place like that already exists somewhere!
It’s like slavery, but with extra steps.
People will go very far to show others their status
1km 🤡
On the streets of New Delhi this will probably take just as long as walking. Need the AC though.
I’ve been to Mumbai, and 1km is fine for us Europeans, but depending on their location, it can be a life-threatening experience due to the intense traffic, pollution and heat.
That sounds really dangerous. Someone should ban fuel there to make it safer.
Yeah it’s the heat, pollution, and safety (not sure about sidewalks there though) rather than distance. I used to live in a tropical country and walked just a little over 1km to work. I had to wear a running shirt and change into my actual shirt when I arrived at the office because I’ll be drenched in sweat. I also had to wear a mask because of the pollution.
Longer. It takes about 12 minutes to walk 1km. A car in Delhi traffic will take about 20 minutes to cover that during the morning rush hour
What’s this about? Government-mandated to reduce emissions? Switching to electric, or just “better” ICE cars?
AFAIK pollution is a serious problem in India’s cities - but people like this guy are going to defend their “personal freedoms” (cleverly masked as economical concern) tooth and nail.
edit: I stand corrected. This is someone being upset about bad policy. Still, the “wife” and “1km”, both suggesting this is a secondary vehicle, triggers me. Standard upper middleclass griping.
But forcing someone to replace a working vehicle? What is the environmental impact of manufacturing a new car and disposing of the old one? At what point does that actually outweigh the impact of emissions from a slightly older car, if ever?
If the government’s intent is to cut local emissions this could make sense.
He isn’t being forced to replace the car. He could walk. It’s 1km ffs
Government-mandated to reduce emissions?
On the surface, yes. In reality they’re just offloading environmental responsibility on to citizens (and making them buy “better” ICE cars so the auto industry gets the profits) instead of improving and expanding public transit to make it easier to get around without a car.
cash for clunkers without the cash
To be fair, buses don’t solve last-mile situations like this one, unless you expect the route to become walkable by reduction in car numbers. Even then, I wouldn’t begrudge the busy housewife avoiding a long walk with a kid in tow.
Depends on the bus system. Some primarily operate within a square mile, and therefore primarily solve the last mile situation. They don’t solve the first/last 50m probably that isn’t really a problem anyways.
Whoa! Cool it.
The mandate isn’t from “government”. Apparently, the government failed to do much about pollution, so a regulatory body was set up by the courts, which body did some good things (ban diesels) but also some hamhanded things like judge only based on technology age rather than the odometer. Throwing away a ton of steel and manufacturing that has had minimal utilization isn’t going to help any.
You should’ve dissed the people who made scrapping the dedicated bus lane an election issue some years ago. I guess that never made it to the newspapers, and hence wasn’t discussed online either.
Haven’t there been multiple cases of women getting gang raped on indian public transport?
Okay, that’s horrible, but in a country with around 1.5 billion people things can be both incredibly rare and happen every week.
Delhi (and the broader NCR) is generally unsafe for women. I have heard from female friends that they don’t even look at job offers from NCR for this reason.
Public transit is not necessary for a 1km distance.
I mean, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of recent cases where women have been gang raped just walking down the street as well, but my comment was more referring to ops comment that they should be agitating for better public transport. I agree with the sentiment, but there might be a safety factor pushing the lady to drive. That’s possibly true for walking too. Walking may also not be feasible due to lack of walking infrastructure or mobility issues. My mother in law probably couldn’t walk a kilometre, she’s not obese and is mostly mobile, but she’s just had multiple knee replacements and walking that distance isn’t possible.
Right, but also there’s the whole gang rape thing… Imma go ahead and say people should do what makes them feel safe from gang rape.
It’s prob necessary to do something, even new ICE vehicles & new fuels are not the cleanest in India, but old ones prob really need to go, especially in a country with such pollution problems.
How to achieve that & why not boost public (city) transport instead, etc & why they decided to go this way can def be questioned - but that’s in all nations & at the end something still gets done.
well, it is car traffic in India, maybe in Dheli. can get quite crazy so I am not sure you are expecting them to walk there? but to be fair, not clear from the article.
I am indeed expecting them to walk. People (me included) walk longer distances in Indian traffic in far worse conditions, a kilometer is quite literally child’s play
We know way too little about this situation to be judging this family so harshly. What if the child is disabled and has mobility issues? What if the walk is on a busy road with no sidewalks? What if the path is up and down a very steep hill? Maybe they can be walking this every day, but maybe not…if you wanna complain about the culture being car-centric, fine, but there’s not enough info to blame the family.
Being driven to school has a bad effect on your spatial intelligence. Disabled kids don’t deserve that.
