‘US government documents admit that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not necessary to end WWII. Japan was on the verge of surrendering. The nuclear attack was the first strike in Washington’s Cold War on the Soviet Union. Ben Norton reviews the historical record.’

  • Vncredleader [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    Yeah we can’t be totally sure until afterwards, but the same is true for letting the peace process actually be attempted as planned. Hindsight works both ways, and given the US admitted it was doing it just to intimidate the Soviets, and the alternative was sitting around for a bit longer and negotiating till that ran dry it is clearwhat the wrong choice was

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      2 years ago

      letting the peace process actually be attempted as planned

      Japan was already attempting to surrender for months before the bombs were dropped.

    • StraightIanFidance [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah we can’t be totally sure until afterwards, but the same is true for letting the peace process actually be attempted as planned.

      In war, the neutral position is to assume that the enemy won’t surrender. Why are you arbitrarily putting the “correct” time to negotiate just before the atom bomb? Why not a year before? What made this time so special except for the ad hoc context.

      given the US admitted it was doing it just to intimidate the Soviets, and the alternative was sitting around for a bit longer and negotiating till that ran dry it is clearwhat the wrong choice was

      Shithole US sucks and obviously did it for the wrong reasons. But A single firebomb raid killed as many as the atom bomb. While you’re negotiating, the US is still gonna be firebombing shit. A few extra months of war, or even blockade, would have outweighed the casualties of the bomb. Now the US wasn’t doing this for humanitarian reasons of course, but the first bomb was the least bad option done for the wrong reasons.

      Second bomb was absolutely just a dick-measuring contest with the Soviets.