Lebanon, once thought of as among the most liberal parts of the Middle East, is poised to ban global hit movie “Barbie.” More conservative Kuwait said Wednesday that it had gone ahead with a ban due to its promotion of homosexuality.

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    It’s disgusting that homosexuality is seen as such an abhorrent thing in this day and age. Are all humans not capable of love? If the answer is a resounding yes, then why are we stopping consenting adults from expressing this? Because of some archaic scripture from thousands of years ago? Excuse my French here, Lebanon, but kindly get to fuck.

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      This is exactly why the separation of church and state is supposed to exist in democracies. The zealots will continue to take away your rights until morale improves.

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        I’ll just mention that in the middle east the vast majority of people don’t support LGBT rights. Bringing up the separation of church and state makes no sense in this context.

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          They don’t support those rights cause they have been brainwashed by their religion. Maybe if religion was removed from government, that wouldn’t be the case, at least not to this extent.

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        Are you seriously whatabouting countries that regularly arrest and torture queer people for being queer?

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        I think your number is a bit off.

        Edit to reflect the true severity or the comment is getting removed for misinformation.

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        But we had almost 120000 Jews killed in concentrationcamps.

        If you want to deny the holocaust you might wanna be a little more subtle, fascist.

        BTW, holocaust denial is, as you surely know, a criminal offence in „your country“.

        Now go and follow your leader.

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    Even if it was the case, what’s wrong about homosexuality? Who the fuck cares who fuck who? We have one life. Let people live like they fucking want. End of the story, end of the argument. If there’s a god, let that god be the judge of it. The rest is none of your god damn business

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      These people are happy when they make other people miserable. That’s all it ever was.

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      This is actually a good argument for these cultists. Are you playing god now? Let him punish these evil people minding their own business

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        As a Muslim I can understand arguments stemming from liberalism, but this one makes no sense. Islam is pretty clear about what should be done with known homosexuals, and leaving them alone isn’t it. Again, I can understand not agreeing with the principle from the start, but the “let God deal with it” is illogical.

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          It’s not even about “liberalism” or “conservative” mentality. It’s just common sense really. How the fuck does homosexuals hurt you in any way? Nothing. They don’t hurt anybody. They cannot magically turn you gay, you are born gay - or not. That’s all. Now this will never stop being a thing. It was a thing 25,000 years ago, it will be a thing in 25,000 years from there, it’s a thing in the animal kingdom, it’s not a disease you can transmit, nobody ever turned gay at 40 years old like “sheesh fuck vaginas, I like penis now”. Like what the fuck? If you are against homosexuals, you are pretty much against whatever god your parents told you to believe in, because it’s natural. It’s a creation of said gods.

          The more people figure that out, the faster we can actually focus on real issues that ARE actually affecting us all; economy, inflation, climate change, job crisis, pandemics, heat waves, hurricanes, healthcare, etc. THOSE ARE REAL CONCERNS IN THE REAL WORLD.

          Drop the fucking stupid bullshit with gays, lesbians, abortions and religions, those are all non-issues that doesn’t matter in the end. This isn’t 1532, we are in 2023 for fuck sake

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      Religion was, and still is, about power and control over others. Observant people in the past noticed that homosexuals didn’t produce as many (if any) children compared to others. Less children means less bodies for your army. A smaller army means less power. Less power means less control. Therefore religions focused on power and control hate homosexuals.

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      It’s the new crusades- they can’t kill you, but they can make sure you can’t do anything they don’t like because of their religion, even if it kills you.

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    The planet is on fucking fire and we are all heading towards the next planetary extinction event, but alah forgive we have a single homosexual reference in a fucking movie.

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    Maybe I’m desensitized, but I honestly don’t remember any gay moments in this movie. There are obviously plenty of guys wearing really “flamboyant” outfits, but it was contrasted with their toxic masculinity (i.e. behavior mostly associated with the types of people who actually tend to be homophobic), which is what made it so goddamn funny.

    And I also have no idea what they’re talking about with promoting body transformation. Unless you know going in that the one actress is trans, you might not even guess she is. The main joke that even references genitalia is making fun of the fact that the Barbie and Ken dolls have nothing there…

    And all this is beside the point anyway. Modern societies shouldn’t be catering to the precious feefees of religious/conservative snowflakes. They can just choose not to see this movie instead of ruining it for everyone.

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      I think the argument is that allowing women agency and asking men to define themselves through something other than their relationship with women is gay. So basically, violating patriarchy is gay.

      It’s a pretty stupid definition.

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      I also have no idea what they’re talking about with promoting body transformation

      Well, there is the

      spoiler

      last line in the movie

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    Lmao. Just goes to show that even the most “liberal” part of the Middle East is still a shithole country.

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      Lebanon is not liberal, their homosexuality law is still on the books and 80% of the country is opposed to normalizing homosexuality.

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    I’m confused. Who in Barbie is gay? Kens whole thing is he’s utterly obsessed with her…

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      I’m guessing that it’s due to general flamboyance? Ken saying he’s going to “beach off” the other Ken and wearing pink may have triggered their 4th grade cooties sensor.

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    I mean lebanon is slowly becoming more progressive if it wasn’t for it’s government that is corrupt as hell. Though many smart lebanese just leave for western nations because the standard of living is higher even if your broke.

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    A lot of country looks beautiful to visit, especially in middle-east, but governed by fascists or homophobes or whatever, it’s sad :-(

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    Lebanon is a corrupt nation, $70 billion in funds robbed from citizens’ accounts, just toady, U.S. Treasury sanctions imposed on the bank governor, Riad Corrupt Salameh, and a privileged corrupt class that appears more inclined to witness the nation’s devastation than to accept responsibility. A significant portion of the population grapples with poverty, struggling to afford even basic sustenance, let alone the luxury of viewing films prohibited by a corrupt Lebanese government. Conversely, Kuwait possesses the world’s most valuable currency and boasts a substantial sovereign wealth fund approaching the trillion-dollar mark. With unparalleled purchasing prowess, they could outmatch Warner Bros. effortlessly should they choose to do so.

    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1687