yes “america bad” is a valid political stance

  • BenEarlDaMarxist@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    “Oh boy! Can’t wait to know all the man-made horrors, war crimes, and crimes against humanity the United States of America did! Just so I can find my hatred of capitalism all the more justified!”

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      2 years ago

      There’s a special level of evil in genociding indigenous peoples for the fun of it and nuking Japan (who was already ready to surrender) twice!

      • NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        We didn’t nuke Japan for fun. We warned civilians by dropping pamphlets. They had just weaponized the bubonic plague on china. When the bombs were dropped, they had planned on doing the same biological attack on San Francisco in two weeks.

        The Japanese were arguably worse than the Nazis, but their evils during the war were erased because they were such a convenient trading partner. Not even their own citizens learn about their atrocities, especially in the way that Germany does.

        • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.mlM
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          We didn’t nuke Japan for fun

          Well, a bit for fun. Eisenhower didn’t want to nuke Nagoya because he spent his honeymoon there.

          But you’re right otherwise, the bombs were dropped because the USSR was making too much headway and preparing a naval invasion of the main island set for mere days after the bombs were dropped, which would have given them an edge at the negotiating table.

          warned civilians by dropping pamphlets

          Didn’t seem to help much, their shadows are still singed against the pavement.

        • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Neither of the atomic bombs had warnings, those were pamphlets for the fire bombings of Tokyo. The goal was to spread fear of what we could do to the whole world. We used Japan as a fucked up example.

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            2 years ago

            Japan still was commiting genocide during the war. We absolutely shouldn’t downplay Japanese war crimes but we also shouldn’t compare the two as it leads nowhere productive

            • 新星 [he/him/CPC bot]@lemmygrad.ml
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              2 years ago

              Japan still was commiting genocide during the war

              They definitely committed war crimes and I don’t mean to downplay this. Was this genocide though?