• 0 Posts
  • 19 Comments
Joined 2 years ago
cake
Cake day: July 10th, 2023

help-circle








  • Well said. We all spend a lot of time criticizing, and not enough time building up. Here are a few more (rather heavily paraphrased) ways to be a good person that I feel strongly about:

    Admire people who recognize their insufficiency, mourn, show humility, seek justice, are merciful, have a pure heart, work for peace, or are oppressed for doing the right thing.

    Understand you’re incapable of perfection, and so is everybody else.

    If you’re angry with someone, call them an idiot, or curse them, beware of the consequences.

    Settle conflict with others quickly before it escalates.

    Be faithful to all your vows in both thought and action.

    Resist the urge for vengeance; flip the script by going above and beyond for those who take advantage of you.

    Give to those who ask for help or want to borrow what you have.

    Stand out from the crowd by showing kindness and compassion to those who hate you.


  • Agreed. However, something has to be said for the fact that a lot of American society and economy has shifted value away from “dangerous” or otherwise physically demanding labor (e.g. coal mining, farm field work before automation) towards jobs that don’t depend on how much muscle mass you have or other expressions of sex hormones. That value system was encoded into cultural norms and media, which, without the corresponding environment, just became a caricature.

    The problem of focusing too much on the culture is that we miss what shaped it in the first place: a need to feel valued. If men aren’t valued for their physique (or, to be frank, their biological expendability), then what’s their value? The Left was too afraid of ruining their Feminist credibility to offer any serious solutions. Meanwhile, the Right leaned in to that caricature, and offered a solution full of misogyny and arrogance. When presented a choice between an awful solution and no solution, it’s no wonder so many men fell prey to toxicity.

    We need more non-toxic masculinity.


  • Fair enough, political definitions are rarely well-defined.

    I guess people often use it to mean the more internet-savvy, meme-posting, trolling right wing.

    Yeah, that’s how I understood it… Not really something Eich seems to do much.

    I’m not sure why anybod would think it’s not connected.

    Just because Eich has awful views doesn’t give license to also be awful by throwing around random other accusations or connecting him with trolling skinheads. Remember, even the Nuremberg Trials had defense attorneys, so let’s stick to the high road of justice, not the shitty cesspool that the far right wants to drag us into.


  • ExFed@lemm.eetoTechnology@lemmy.worldWhy you shouldn't use Brave Browser
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    Please, go back and carefully read what I wrote. I’ve said nothing about whether I find Eich’s donation morally acceptable or not, let alone anything beyond that. You seem quick to condemn on nothing more than circumstance. The far-left is just as illiberal, regressive, and unjust as the far-right.

    Beware of groupthink. It makes for smooth brains.




  • ExFed@lemm.eetoTechnology@lemmy.worldWhy you shouldn't use Brave Browser
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    In my experience, anybody who claims morality is “clear cut” is probably naive, otherwise they’re selling a cult. The fact that you think my line is questioning is suspicious without knowing anything about me or anything beyond this thread makes me suspect it’s the latter, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

    Yes, it’s a philosophical debate. That’s why I’m here, on the Internet, asking philosophical questions, to spur debate.


  • I agree, it ought to be a hard line.

    Question is, though, where’s the line? We don’t all come with the same exact moral compass, and we’re all perfectly capable of rationalizing evil, so you can’t just say “be a moral and non-bigoted person” and expect the desired outcome. Plenty of slave owners worldwide were convinced that slavery was not just morally admissible but even admirable.

    No matter where that line is, it needs to be well-defined and agreed-upon, or else it’s arbitrary, and thus open to abuse and corruption by demagogues.