I believe the concept of nature is weird for some people and also not very informative. For uninterested people nature is everything that is green or outside of cities. I’ve actually have become progressively disappointed by the number of people I directly know, that are actively afraid, grossed out or bothered by the idea of just hiking very normal and marked trails very close to cities in places without any dangerous animals. For them nature is something to fear. So even if I think the nature is a alive angle may appeal to some people I’m not sure it fixes that fear.

Very interesting. It would be a great idea to pass on the benefits of renewables to consumers. It really makes no sense to base the energy price on the price of fuel in countries where most energy is generated from renewables like the southern European countries. It just benefits the companies. Even if it helps build more of those renewables at this point people need to see the advantages on their energy bills.

Also I think more encouragement/incentives for self production would really help people feel more involved in the transition. By allowing them go have a sense that energy does not magically appear from the air. This of course will need some grid improvements but would increase energy autonomy, reliance and a sense of local power to populations.

I thought about that too. A lot of people are too eager to blame this or that power generation when what I think failed was the network as a whole because it’s such a massive system and a monolith. I really thought it was more modular than that.

Also in that day anyone with their own solar panels at least had some energy. So like you said, smaller systems are more resilient.

For me, it’s a consideration for the future, making sure that if I have to, I have some power generating capacity, maybe even some storage.

What? Is the server Portugal based? I’m surprised to see fellow Portuguese people around here. Always assumed it was american or danish or something. Good to know!

About the blackout I would stay away from jumping to theories right now since the investigation is still on going and way too much was made up in that afternoon with no power. I think the latest theory is related to instability caused maybe by too much solar power suddenly injected into the network in Spain, which caused the network to crash which in turn crashed the Portuguese one. But, as far as I read this is the latest theory not a definite one so take it with a grain of salt.

Is it? Maybe both? A movement against climate change makes sense? A movement for climate change in the sense of raising the issue could also make sense? What a funny language

I’m not sure you are straw manning yourself or you have me confused with another comment. I was agreeing with the commenter. Moral consumption of power is a concept I completely accept. But @stabby_cicada did start the argument with this:

The point isn’t that some electricity production is reliable 24/7. The point is, if we want an ethos of reduced consumption, we need to give up the idea that we have the right to power on demand 24-7.

I was answering to that complemented with another comments and agreeing with the whole should use power with a moral attitude. What an aggressive response…

I wasnt agreeing at first with you but I can agree with you on the moral take of energy consumption. Nevertheless I don’t think it makes any sense to remove constant electricity from the equation. Human development and prosperity is greatly increased by that availability aswell as communication. Let’s say the goal is a post capitalism, non hierarchical decentralized society that outgrows capitalism’s growth needs and achieves post scarcity. In order to for this to be real you need constant access to electricity and communications, otherwise you are isolating people and dampening your efforts towards it. I do think you are right and there needs to be some morality in spending but it should be a moral choice not a matter of not being available

I mean in defense of the other person. It sounds more like the argument is trying to encourage a bigger action. Like don’t just do your part, vote/participate for what actually changes things in a larger scale.

Markets don’t “create wealth”. People’s work creates wealth. Banks don’t create wealth, they create debt and allow more money to go into circulation than actually exists.

I think the world would make a giant leap forward if we could all agree on this. Sad thing is that finance basically exist to muddy the waters of what value is. (EDITED, incorrect formating)

Very cool! Thank you for sharing!

That’s amazing, what huge chunk of land! You are practically self sufficient in terms of food, congratulations! Do you do all the work alone?

I think that’s a bit of leap to say that because people can live further away from everyone else they will. And will go to places where everything must be done by car. I think most will just stay away from the bigger city centers, which tend to be the only places where transit has enough coverage. At least as far as I’m used to, don’t know about the UK, maybe you have great transit systems. I can say something about everybody I know who works remotely (partially and completely), at the end of the day most are much more likely to want to be with friends and family and exercise, mostly because they don’t feel so drained by travel and work culture.

Meeting hell, I know the feeling… I’ll be rooting for your veggie patch!

I’ll counter that with the community being the people you want it to be and not the forced work place culture. You can have the same community for years while changing jobs in the meantime. I don’t understand your argument regarding cars. Fully remote allows one to orchestrate his own live to never have to drive. If you have no commute and you have access to things near you, why would you drive? I understand that it depends on the person and live conditions. But from strictly flexibility perspective you are more able to decide how you live than the alternative.

That’s my dream. Do you grow anything?

Why do you plan to leave? I’m not from the USA so I’m not familiar with that reality. Is it isolation from services? Or do you miss the city? Myself, I prefer the mountains and smaller towns (like 50k-70k population)

Don’t blame yourself. I know a lot of people in situations similar and they also blame themselves. Maybe you can improve on disconnecting from work, try to pause notifications after you are out, or turn off your phone. At least for me it works pretty well.

Me too. Currently I do find that I have a minimal relationship with my current team which isn’t the end of the world but at one point I had a team that I never met in person that was the best team I ever had and I was only there 6 months. I think like with in person relationships the person’s involved matter a lot. Also the will that most of team has to make an effort to know each other.

Now I’m curious to know how long are your breaks? XD

I did try the cowork thing. I did it in Porto, Portugal but I think that because real estate here is fundamentally broken there is no way that it works. I did found some places but the good ones were expensive and the bad ones were also expensive just not that much. And only the really good ones were better than working at a library or a coffee shop.

I don’t think the remote work itself is solarpunk but I think it gives a slight opening to create solarpunk communities. Less time commuting, more time spent with people you want to spend time with and less with coworkers, community and political envolvment, sports, etc… Besides, I agree that a good deal of remote jobs are not inherently useful to the world but just the fact that it opens a way for a lot of people to move from big urban centers to smaller urban centers, reduces centralization and with it can move the workers that can’t do their work remotely also to the decentralized communities.