MxM111

My point is not about time it takes, but about the fact that you can find the job and quit. In this order.

Quite sure this is not what happen. The Soviets were trying to build socialism via the process of collectivization. While some argue that it was also a process of suppression of Ukrainian nationalism, the collectivization was the official policy at the time in the whole USSR and it destroyed lots of farmers everywhere, and killed or sent to exile huge amount of farmers and their families. Ukraine was affected more since it was primarily agricultural with strong farmer class. But hunger and deaths from hunger were common in other agricultural regions too, just to less extend than in Ukraine. In any case, this is what the process of collectivization did, the process of building socialism. Farmers do not want to give up the means of production - hence the forced collectivization.

But my main point that calling selfish those who against socialism because they know about these historical examples is just wrong.

Your post contains zero arguments about any position. Just letting you know.

I am talking about socialism as it existed in history. If you have another historical example where all the means of productions were public, you are welcome to educate me.

Good example, dammit!

Socialism is based on public ownership of means of production. In order to shift to socialism in foreseeable future and in the past, it requires forceful removal of private property and converting it into public, since I can not imagine that all people would do this voluntarily (and they did not do that voluntarily historically). So, yes, you require forceful state, a dictatorship. Soviets openly called that “dictatorship of the working class” when they were nationalizing means of production. That included by the way farmers who used seasonally hired labour. They fought to destroy those farms and farmers were treated as enemy to socialism. Ukrainian Holodomor that killed millions of people is a good example of such fight.

So, before blank-calling other people self-centered and selfish, maybe you should learn a bit more about socialism and its history?

Change it to half a year. My point still stands.

On your phone when you move finger up, the content moves down???

It is also a base! It’s fucked up that much!

For now. The poison sometimes takes 100 years to become effective.

For most people it would take about one month to find new job. So, you can quit in a month.

Rock, leaf, stick. Same thing.

The best way to handle trash is to throw it into garbage. Duh.

Actually, 3 jokes:

1. Step sister
2. Mitosis
3. Loss

Well, I am traveling forward in time in home made Time Machine with the speed of one second per second. I do not see any problem you are describing. Now I just need to add the reverse, but I do not expect any issues of this kind either.

Obviously I would. The trip would take two years.

AND damage your car.

The default behavior of mouse wheel (what shown in OP graphics) is the same as on the phone. What are you talking about?

Yeah, I see that it went over their heads.

Is there harm side from technologies? Of course. But say plastic overall has much more economic good for an average person. And I do not think that war and war technologies is part of this discussion. By definition everything relating to war is waste of resources on civilization scale. It was always so, has nothing to do with technology and our discussion.