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  • That was part of the issue. The father of the idea that handwashing can lower people getting puerperal fever and even other infections Ignaz Semmelweis was practicing in the 1840s in Vienna and during that time doctors were already top of working society. Because there was no idea of the germ theory of disease until later he was basically saying that first the doctors were responsible for deaths that could rise to 18% child birthing women in hospitals and secondly that they were unclean people. As gentlemen latter was offensive as that class of people both didn’t have to get their hands dirty in the way “lower” classes had to and if they got dirty definitely didn’t keep them dirty. Ignaz’s theory why didn’t help as he thought their hands were dirty with cadaver or animal carcass matter and not with invisible microbes.

    That is also where white-collar and blue-collar worker terms come from. White collar workers didn’t have to get so too dirty working that they couldn’t wear a white shirt and collar (which was a separate piece of garment until the early 20th century).

    Even though doctors washing hands lowered the puerperal fever deaths to about 1% in the maternity ward of Ignaz’s hospital handwashing didn’t really become a thing in hospitals at that point. It needed many other people to get it through in 1850s and 1860s.









  • I am crossing this divide now. I have secondary education but no university and I am working to get to med school now (In Finland it is a combined undergrad and med school). I think I can do it but I don’t really know how to study. I know how to learn but learning in schedule is the issue. I was too ill to go to university when I should have and I could have gone to easier courses I could have gone to without an entrance exam and done OK but I always wanted medicine. Or well, I not easier but easier to get into like maths. After I got better I ended up in aid work, and stopping that is really hard. But I still want to become a doctor so I am trying now in my thirties. Having what looks like undiagnosed ADHD that is now under investigation and crappy childhood might explain part of why I never became what people felt I should have but the fact that I never had to learn to study because I didn’t need to get through is up there.

    I try to remember that our education does not mean anything for our value, but it seems hard when it comes to you.





  • I think having a digital ID system is very important in the modern age but where it is required needs to be limited. You should not need to use it where it isn’t strictly necessary. We have one in Finland too. You will almost entirely use it to use official services that would need your ID in person as well. In this proposal, the issue is not digital ID but how it would be used. First, where it would be used could compromise revealing too much of your identity when you want privacy and secondly and more importantly, it could compromise revealing your private actions to the government. Latter can move into highly problematic territory when criminalizing actions that should not be criminalized.




  • Of course, don’t lay down. Really learn and train to become useful in those situations. You don’t need to be professional, just properly trained. There are multiple ways to do it but you need more than a couple of days a year to also keep that training up to date.

    I just have a lot of experience with people making things worse because they think the basic to medium first aid courses will make you able to help properly. And then make things worse. So my comment might have come out too harshly. But advanced first aid with the psychology of emergencies and scene management with the right attitude (mostly listening to those more experienced) will actually be useful.


  • I am a humanitarian aid worker working in emergencies with a decade under my belt. I am not saying civilians are not useful if they are properly trained. First aid courses that are not advanced, often repeated can help but it really is nowhere near enough to think you are ready to even halfway towards the front lines. Often simple first aid courses can also make you think you know more than you do. That also commonly coincides with attitudes where people are not listening.

    I just have absolutely too much experience with people making bad situations worse with their actions. And even some people causing emergency situations because of what they don’t know. But I do not disagree with you. I think we are talking about two different things. I am talking about normal first aid courses people take every couple of years what you are talking about is actual advanced first aid courses that properly teach emergencies, how they work and how you need to act.


  • I would disagree. I say that everyone should take a first aid class, but to be useful in any real situation in general you need a shitton of training. Honestly, from experience, I want fewer people who think they are useful when being everything but useful in emergency situations. It leads to situations where I need to babysit them and work. At worst, they endanger themselves and/or others.

    I know a lot of people who are not used to these situations feel like an extra pair of hands is always a plus but I have not met any first responders, health care workers, military or aid workers that agree with that statement. It is a common subject of discussion as it really is driving most of us up the wall.