A contrarian isn’t one who always objects - that’s a confirmist of a different sort. A contrarian reasons independently, from the ground up, and resists pressure to conform.

  • Naval Ravikant
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  • I often wonder about this myself too - especially when it comes to people being mean online. It’s absurd to me that just because I said something they disagree with, they think it gives them the green light to viciously attack me personally instead of addressing what I actually said. And often, it’s from people I haven’t even interacted with directly. I just don’t get it. I never feel the urge to be intentionally mean to someone, and I can’t imagine what these people think they’re gaining from it.






  • I get where you’re coming from, but I think this is actually a good example of what I was trying to get at in my original post.

    Assuming people don’t really believe what they say - just because they don’t act exactly how we might expect - feels like another form of refusing to give an inch.

    If someone says they believe life begins at conception, I take that at face value unless there’s clear evidence otherwise - I’m not a mind reader after all. And not resorting to violence (like killing doctors) is actually consistent with believing killing is wrong, not evidence that they don’t believe it.

    People can be inconsistent without being dishonest. We’re all a bit messy like that.


  • I can’t help myself but to comment on this though it gets a little off-topic.

    I think the “pro-life vs healthcare” example can be a little more complicated.

    If someone sees abortion as equivalent to murder (because they believe life begins at conception), their opposition is based on a direct moral prohibition - being against killing - rather than a broader stance on care or social services.

    That doesn’t mean there aren’t inconsistencies elsewhere, but the perceived contradiction might not be quite as direct from their point of view as it sounds.


  • It’s been less than a week since I last publicly admitted to being wrong about something. Not only did I get called ignorant for being wrong in the first place, but even more so for admitting it.

    I also agree with your point about pressure-testing your own beliefs. Whenever I’m debating someone, it’s as much about trying to influence their beliefs as it is about letting them test mine. I know I’m wrong about plenty of things, and I don’t want to stay wrong any longer than necessary. If there’s a flaw in my reasoning, I want someone to point it out to me in a way I can’t ignore.

    It’s painful to be proven wrong - I’m not immune to that either. It stings. What I don’t understand, however, is why, instead of simply leaving the discussion, some people start making excuses, redefining terms, rewriting history, or attacking me personally based on beliefs I often don’t even hold. That kind of behavior just seems absurd to me.

    I’m usually not someone who picks sides easily, but I think the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a rare example where it’s pretty clear to me who the good guys are (though I’m open to counterarguments). Even then, if someone pointed out that Ukraine has committed war crimes too, I’d say that’s almost certainly true - but it doesn’t change how I feel about Ukraine broadly when compared to who they’re fighting against. My worldview isn’t threatened by admitting that. I genuinely struggle to understand the perspective of someone who can’t do the same.