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  • I’ve had a similar experience with other alternatives like Soy curls, which I got to taste good a couple times but strangely could never replicate, and ended up just tasting like adding cereal to me. And Beyond beef, which has an off flavor from the pea protein base.

    Quorn seemed to have no off flavor to me or my family, it seemed totally neutral, and they couldn’t tell the difference in tacos, chili, stuffed peppers, etc. I was surprised it wasn’t more popular based on how long its been around.

    Maybe there’s a genetic component that’s influencing our flavor perception of it? like how saccharine can taste terrible to people due to genetic differences, limiting its use in soda or candy.


  • I don’t dispute her lead findings, but her statement about Hydroxyapatite shows she’s willing to give comment on things she knows nothing about.

    Hydroxyapatite is extracted from cow bone and added because it allegedly helps teeth absorb calcium, though Rubin said she doubts it does.

    Hydroxyapatite is used as an alternative to flouride, as it’s able to attach to the enamal and act as a barrier similar to how flouride does.

    Research has shown it’s less effective than flouride overall (it can’t withstand as low a pH/acidity before dissolving), but it’s not added to increase calcium absorption, like she claims.


  • Collective action on a wide scale far outpaces what Elon could do, and it’s not as though he would increase his personal consumption to counteract what thousands of others do.

    We need to keep in mind the overall picture, and not let other people continuing harmful practices to stop us from trying to reduce ours. Otherwise nothing would ever get better.

    “I’m not going to drive less or use a bicycle because the rich use jets.”

    “I’m not going to install balcony solar because the rich waste energy with factories and mansions.”

    “I’m not going to consume less because the rich consume more than me.”

    These mindsets stifle positive change that can genuinely make a difference, especially when we are so short on time.

    Also, there are now extremely good plant based red meat alternatives like Quorn, Impossible, or on a budget, Seitan. All of which allow us to continue to use our favorite meat based recipes without contributing to climate change (and lower bowel cancer risks :D), letting us give elon the finger without sacrificing anything.



  • In the case of Quorn, it’s mainly Mycroprotein, a type of fungus that naturally grows into a meat-y like texture and has a neutral flavor that absorbs spices or vegan stocks really well. They do use a little egg whites as a binder, making it vegetarian, not vegan (unfortunate), but it doesn’t really have any nasty additives. It’s basically a fancy mushroom.

    Impossible Beef is definitely more processed, but there’s nothing in the ingredients list that stands out as particularly bad to me:

    Ingredients: Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Sunflower Oil, Coconut Oil, 2% Or Less Of: Natural Flavors, Methylcellulose, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Yeast Extract, Dextrose, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Vitamin E (Tocopherols), L-Tryptophan, Soy Protein Isolate,

    Vitamins and Minerals: Zinc, Vitamins (B3, B1, B6, B2, and B12)