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Cake day: June 28th, 2023

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  • Look, hit me with the pedantic semantic hammer as much as you want. I’ve linked plenty of proof above likening it to both definitions lol.

    It’s a legal pyramid scheme, ponzi scheme, whatever, when people at the bottom who put in can go literally bankrupt, while the people at the top reap 95% or more of the benefit while being COMPLETELY INSULATED from loss due to bailouts, other rich folk insuring losses, and ‘bankruptcy’ for corporations while C Suite execs still walk away with millions as long as it was a ‘good Faith’s’ investment.

    Tried to fuck the rich out of their money though? They shut down trade sites, send you to jail for insider trading, meanwhile all they have to do is time their sellout on stocks a whopping 3-6 months in advance before they liquidate their company to get a max payout. All while they buy our politicians who have the LEGAL ability to inside trade…

    That is a scheme where people at the bottom get fleeced for their money. Millions getting fucked by it with so many getting squalid benefits for essentially investing 1/4 their income for literally half their lives, only for the rich at the top to still make out with bank.

    It’s a pyramid scheme. You can narrowly define what counts as a ponzi scheme as much as you want to try to avoid it, but it’s the truth.

    It’s a legal ponzi scheme. As I’ve linked to with a multitude of sources making these direct comparisons with plenty of proof beyond concept.

    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/ponzi-vs-pyramid.asp





  • You could use that argument to invalidate voting or any boycott

    The difference being that there will never be enough vegans to change large-AG practices until the reasons I’ve stated above. There is a non-zero hit to their bottom line, sure, but Veganism will never be mainstream until healthy and tasty alternatives to meat is viable, tasty, and cheap.

    The perpetual shift to healthier lifestyles through lab grown and alternative meats are an inevitability for any prospering/utopian civilization. The technology and culture to get there requires A LOT though.



  • Right. It’s also the right and good thing to do and you should be commended for it. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

    People who eat meat know it can be healthy and terrible for your diet. The same way any other foodstuff is. They also know you’re killing animals, often in terrible conditions. If you go through life caring about everything that has ethical dilemmas though, you wouldn’t be using microprocessors, any clothing that wasn’t made and grown by yourself, etc. You DEFINITELY wouldn’t be on the internet lol. The Good Place had a wonderful look on going through that moral extreme.

    Even going the living healthier route, the bigger issue is ultra/processed foods.

    Veganism equating boycotting the meat industry is great for your mental, but does a basically non-zero hit to their margins in actuality. People advocating, voting, and being vocal are what makes the small then large changes to shift the food industry paradigm to non-sentient meat options. The people smart enough to make real efforts into alternatives are doing so. Yeah, you want to participate too and feel like you’re doing something, and you are, but let’s not pretend it’s not for your own mental benefit. Both through how you feel by advocating for animals that can’t help themselves, and by not participating directly in something you don’t like as well.





  • I’m pretty sure the vast majority of adult meat eaters have seen multiple videos and still continue to eat meat. Very few have actionable ability to directly stop the suffering so they then stop caring. One person cutting down on red meat will never be enough until there’s enough lab grown meat and/or delicious FakeMeat alternatives to satiate western society at large. We still a long ways away from that.

    Until then, vote for people who want to cut down on brutal industrial practices.