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  • We have no idea how it started, as the video starts when things are already progressed quite a bit.

    If the cops simply back down any time someone challenges them, we might as well not even have police, which then means we shouldn’t bother making laws. Is your argument for anarchy? That would lead to countless murders.

    I agree that there are a lot of other ways this could have gone where no one ended up dead. Many of those involve her not shoplifting, complying with simple requests like get out of the car, and not trying to flee. She isn’t innocent here, she escalated things a lot herself. She was also willing to kill the cop when she accelerated with him in front of the car. What would your reaction be if she ran over and killed the cop, and this was about them looking for the woman who did that? It very easily could have gone that way.


  • When I went in to take a chemistry placement test for college all the kids had their calculators out. Then the people giving the test said it was 45 questions in 45 minutes, no calculators. The groans and sound of 200-300 people putting their calculators away is something I’ll never forget.

    After about 2 questions I realized I’d never finish in time. I completely stopped doing math and simply picked the answer with the correct number of significant figures. I never saw the actual grading of the test, but I placed into the higher level chem class as a result.





  • Sure, and at the end of the day do you think anyone in they miles long line of cars is more concerned about climate change than they were before, or do they just hate climate changes activists a little more than they did before?

    It kind of seems like a no win situation, either people don’t care or they’re pissed off. There probably needs to be more thought put in to find a way to get people to listen without making them hate the protesters.





  • in this case, unless she’s in a stolen car there’s no way the cops couldn’t find her basically immediately after this crime. obviously for violent/dangerous criminals the approach should be different, but for shoplifting? are we serious here?

    That’s what we don’t know, and we don’t know if the cops knew either. Was that her car? Even if it wasn’t stolen, she could have borrowed it. Could she be found after leaving the scene? If it was her car, and the car was registered to her current address, and that’s where she’s going… maybe. That’s a lot of “ifs” when she’s right there and they can simply take care of it while everyone is in the same place and they know they’re getting the right person. We’re also assuming she fled over the bottles of alcohol. Maybe there was a warrant for her arrest, maybe those were related to violent crimes… there is a lot of information we don’t currently have that may eventually come out. People in her situation tend of have a history and they aren’t running because of what they got caught with, they run because they know everything else they’ve done and are on the hook for.

    Rayshard Brooks is an example of this. Police were called when he fell asleep in his car at a Wendy’s drive though, he was drunk. When they tried to arrest him he fought back, stole the cops taser, and tried to fire it… at which point he was shot. He likely wasn’t running and fighting like that because of a single DUI he was trying to avoid. He had a history which involved false imprisonment, battery, and cruelty to children, according to this article. He had been to prison, and was still on probation. It’s likely that violating the probation would mean he’d end up back in prison, hence the freak out and fighting, and escalation of the situation to try and get away. These things rarely exist in a bubble and it’s often not the minor issue the person is fleeing from. We’ll have to wait and see if this is a similar case.

    No disrespect here either. With a lot of this stuff I like to have a wait and see attitude. We know so little right now, and in time, as information comes out the picture tends to become more clear. I have a tendency to play devil’s advocate when it seems a lot of people are jumping to conclusions That isn’t to say the cop was right and should have done what he did. It’s just to say she had a hand in what happened as well, and I don’t think that should be discounted and dismissed. Maybe if people felt a little more responsible for the outcome of their actions we’d have a little less of this.




  • I told a guy I worked with about how when I was a kid I’d have to stand in my dad’s office and, as a 6 year old, explain to him with reason and logic why I did a thing he thought was dumb. “I don’t know” was not an acceptable answer and I had to just stand there until I could come up with something that was acceptable while he asked questions to press. I didn’t yet have the mental ability to understand that as a 6 year old I didn’t really know anything, so the "dumb "thing I did was testing out a hypothesis to learn something and be slightly less dumb than I was before. That’s all any of it was; I wasn’t a trouble maker. I don’t even know if that answer would have been accept, if it was, I’d image I could only use it once.

    The guy I told responded that he was glad his dad just hit him and sent him on his way. I sometimes wonder how I would have turned out if my dad would have just gave me the occasional slap upside the head instead instead of fucking with me mentally.

    I don’t know if anyone makes it out of childhood unscathed.


  • My high school didn’t need a pandemic to fuck over kids in math. We were in some kind of pilot program for a new math curriculum that was complete dog shit and design for people who weren’t planning to go to college or have to do any higher level math.

    The physic teacher quit over it, because the kids would come to physics classes, which needed math, and they couldn’t do the math. When he tried to have them do actual math the parents went after him.

    When I was a senior I was sitting next to a kid who was in National Math Honors Society and watching him put 1-1 in his calculator to solve a problem. He was not trying to be funny or ironic, this was the dependence the school created on calculators.

    It’s been 20 years and I’m still pissed off about it. Math was my best subject until that horse shit basically stopped teaching me math.


  • I think it’s a hard line to walk, especially in the moment. If the cops default to letting people go every time a criminal escalates things, it will teach people that the way to get away with anything is to go crazy, escalate things, and scare the cops. That probably won’t lead to a great outcome. Enough people try that already.

    One also has to wonder what was going on with her. Was she already drunk? Is that why she wasn’t complying and making those bad decisions to escalate? Was she going to drive out of there are get in an accident and kill some innocent person? If she was getting drunk enough to do this while pregnant, what’s going to happen to that fetus? It’s going to be fucked up, if she doesn’t end up totally killing it. I assume there will be a toxicology report at some point. My money is on her not being sober.