OMG I need to make one of these.

OoooOOOoooOOOHHH!

It’s so fucking depressing.

So, I didn’t watch all of it because an ad about AI came on that wasn’t skippable and was lasting more than 5 seconds. It was intolerable. Seriously, people publishing on YouTube about this kind of thing NEED publish at least one other place & to add links to alternative video hosts.

🤮

My vision would be a peace corps-like body that works on projects that specifically are designed to mitigate climate change, or respond to disasters caused by climate change. Planting trees, creating bike lanes, working in tech areas that are helping with modelling and mitigation…transition town initiatives, rewilding… I’m sure many other options.

If it’s elitist, it’s from a perspective that is aware of the incredible damage done by advertising, and the dumbing down and control of what people think is their own opinions that is only exacerbated when people are exposed to it.

See The Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard and No Logo by Naomi Klein, for starters.

And one of my favourite anti-facebook rants ever:

https://youtu.be/d6e1riShmak

(admittedly that’s about the whole package not solely the advertising part tho)

I think a climate corps world not have to be run in a military fashion, and can be doing very peaceful things like planting trees, making bicycle paths, social outreach, or tech if that’s what motivates you. Read the article linked for more ideas of what could be included.

I agree about capitalism & lack of space and car depency, 1000 percent. But we’ve also given people the idea that society of just this given, the structure just exists and you get the benefits of infrastructure (even though it’s far from perfect) without being required to give back. I think that concept of valuable and with an aging population, we will have difficult choices to make in future. Kids shouldn’t have to shoulder a greater burden, and I also believe the welfare state is going to collapse because of logistics of population decline and degrowth in our future, unless we manage it incredibly carefully. We can’t keep going the way we have been, that’s certain.

I cannot remember the last time I watched free to air that wasn’t ABC. It’s mostly reality tv crap and reruns. And propaganda, given who owns these bloody things. Not much would be lost if advertising supported TV was not allowed.

Yes that’s fair, but stricter controls on how and where that happens. Classifieds were always a reasonable thing, and without them the press has been destroyed, but the enshittification of online marketplaces has made the deal really unfair for everyone. The enshittification of socially media through advertising, especially political, has been catastrophic.

Cory Doctorow has had a lot of great things to say about this, and much stricter control is needed to stop platforms making everything awful for both individuals and businesses, but overall I did not get a lot of value when I used to advertise my small business and I just rely on word of mouth largely these days. Been in business over 20 years.

Oh! Also forgot to say: we already came up with a model to remove, very successfully, advertising from TV:

it was called Netflix.

Unfortunately it got enshittified, and now everything is a giant shit show in that department.

But you make advertising illegal, and companies are still going to have subscribers.

I’m also pretty happy with just ABC iView these days, I rarely even bother with SBS and haven’t had Netflix for years.

There’s also Beamafilm and other public library initiatives.

Sweet on 3. I’m also big on adjusting that as a carbon tax, so for example, your tax if your goods ship via sail/carbon neutral means is way less than carbon intensive transport. But refrigerated long range transport seems super crazy at this point.

1 I am open to persuasion on. I know there’s some parts of the world that outlawed billboards, and that’s a vast improvement and a public good for a more restful visual environment. We’ve seen the evil perpetrated on the internet through advertising. It’s just the worst way to have monetised everything, and in hindsight was a massive mistake, and has been since long before this (look up the history if deBeers, and advertising in general. I actually studied advertising briefly as one of several streams in graphic design study, and backed out after one semester, I did not have the stomach for it). People of Fedi are largely already convinced advertising for monetisation is evil. Maybe some kind of limitation in advertising regarding company size, dunno, but I really don’t like the future of Idiocracy, and smarter people than me have already commented that we’re more than halfway there.

And to 2. Allow me to explain further. I first came to this idea of compulsory national service after a conversation at a nightclub over a decade ago where it was mentioned that only 2 nations in the world (at the time) had conscription for all genders: Sweden and Malaysia. This was incorrect as there were several more, as I discovered when I looked it up, and most northern European countries have added conscription for women since. But the person speaking was female and had said it was fantastic, got her opportunities that she might not have had otherwise, allowed her experience in leadership roles that were rare at the time (and often still are in many places), and lifelong friends.

This article just published 3 days ago pretty much gives a bigger overview and I agree with.

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/time-to-consider-mandatory-national-service-in-australia/105257832

I think that we are going to need more social cohesiveness as the world becomes more unstable both geopolitically and physically as climate change really ramps up.

And please note, I do not believe anyone should be required to serve mandatory military service: that’s why I stated specifically military OR climate corps.

Thanks! Good to see there’s at least one other nutter here in Fedi that would vote for these 😊 the idea would be to go into it knowing that the majority would say “you’ve got to be f&*>ing joking mate” - which is exactly the Overton window strategy of right-wingers: of which Overton was one. We gotta start really pulling back not just to the centre but far beyond.

I think now would be an excellent time for the Overton window to be pushed even further to the left, given the results of the Federal Election, and to highlight exactly how far from the original “left” Labor has moved. The intent wouldn’t be to form government or even have much chance of getting a seat: I’m talking left of Socialist Alliance. And I have some pleasantly controversial policies with which to begin this project. Things The Greens won’t touch, and that the Socialist Alliance don’t even really have on their radar as they are focussed generally Marxist theory and unions. I’m talking mainly about being honest and open about the need for radical change in economic policy to degrowth, things that the current left parties don’t talk about because it’s seen as “political suicide”. Yup. Need someone in the far far left to tell the emperor they have no clothes.

Some specific fun policies:

• Make advertising illegal (especially billboards, but also on social media, no money changing hands to force shit people don’t want to see in front of their eyeballs. Bring back word of mouth!)
• Instigate a compulsory National Service period for young adults (like a gap year between high school and university) for all genders, can choose between military & climate corps
• Massively tax carbon costs for food transport. Those oranges from California should not cost the same as Australian in season oranges, sorry.

The One Nation old ladies doing rural HTVs during my one shift this year were surprisingly pleasant. I really am saddened that ON has such appeal in this demographic, I think it’s the Skynews effect in rural areas tbh, a very shrewd tactic by Uncle Rupert, I do hope we are relieved of his vile manipulations before the next Federal Election…

High five! We both done great!

I think a metric fucktonne.

This doesn’t surprise me at all, these types love to find any excuses to pander to the white supremacy segment, which unfortunately has been quite emboldened of late. It’s important to call this behaviour out when it occurs, and fortunately that has been happening.

I was a Pirate Party member briefly almost a decade ago. I realised within a very short time that unfortunately, even then they were more right than Greens and Labor. And weren’t really a good fit for me. They have some understanding of the importance of tech, but they lean more libertarian in philosophy than anything, and their high preference for Libertarian party is no surprise at all.

I think the ratio on your comments Lemmy-wide speaks for itself. If it quacks etc etc. Maybe think about how you come across to people, and if you’ve been called a troll and blocked multiple times by people on a variety of communities, then perhaps some self reflection might be warranted.