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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • As someone who recently created pivoted to Debian (for 12.0) from Windows , the website is quite the headache. I consider myself tech-literate, and have been around the internet long enough where RTFM was a rite of passage, but they really are asking a lot given how many different directions the manual went. I put about 20 minutes into it along with 10-15 minutes reading up on things that were not well explained and then just YOLO’d it.

    Also if 98% of people are installing via a flash drive and 2% are doing CD Rom installs, then cater towards the 98% in your instructions. Not only is the CD ROM examples more prominent, but they also end up leading to downloading the same .iso IIRC. Not saying to do away w/ the catering to obsolete technology, but maybe shift the conversation towards terminology and wording that end users can instantly identify with.

    It really is an example of someone updating an existing process repeatedly instead of taking a step back and seeing how things have changed over time. I suppose that’s the active theme for the entire website. The website is frustrating in that aspect. Speaking from experience, I’d venture that the majority of the traffic that is received from newbies following a YT tutorial where someone spells out where to go and what to click. Looking at the referenced video, it appears that have started to slowly make changes but there’s still work to be done.

    Reading this thread though, I can see how the web dev team came to their conclusion. A solid portion of this thread are people lauding a crap website like alumni who are extolling the virtues of hazing… “it was hard for me, it should be hard for everyone” or “There should be a bit of effort required to keep out the riff raff” etc.



  • Currently going through it right now w/ YouTube.

    Started using alternative front-ends and was able to really curate my feed to be more productive. Now, Google is cracking down on the front-ends even when I cycle through different instances. So far I’m telling myself that even my productive feed wasn’t that productive, but I’ll probably take some of the info to heart in this thread and reevaluate a few things.