I like this thought experiment and think about this a lot. However this does nothing to remotely indicate the existence of the Abrahamic god. People tell you with certainty that god exists and he’s three persons and jesus rose from the dead yada yada. That’s a complete fantasy derived from literally nothing.

No proof but still believe? Faith.

Not believing in something that has zero evidence requires no faith. I don’t need faith to tell you Cthulu isn’t real

It doesn’t require faith to NOT believe in something. It requires faith to accept religion which cannot be proven.

“Concentration camp” evokes the Nazi style death camps. The USA’s version of this was/is decidedly less about mass extermination of a race. Still a concentration camp, still repugnant. I think the terminology is loaded and it makes it harder for people to understand. Not to mention the dearth of education we have which certainly isn’t helping…

red ring of death

I 100% understand what you mean and where you’re coming from. The idea that I could have a loved one ripped away from me by fascists and sent to a camp is horrifying. I understand wanting to die rather than let that happen.

I’m approaching this rationally, though. YOU may be prepared to die at a moment’s notice – but what about your wife? Has she consented to dying in a barrage of bullets when the gestapo comes a-knockin’? I think the last time I looked it up, something like 12 people have died at the El Salvadorian prison. This is ignoring the deplorable conditions and the disturbing abuses that happen of course. I think my/their odds are better there than bleeding out on the floor.

It seems to me that the option that would most allow me to see that loved one again would be to avoid dying in the first place or placing them in harm’s way.

if they kick the door in, they are there to kill you.

This isn’t quite true. You are in mortal danger absolutely, but that danger multiplies tenfold when you draw a weapon and fire. They are there for political purposes to deport people. There’s a monetary incentive in El Salvador to keep these political prisoners alive, too. If death squads begin roaming the streets, summarily executing people, then I will see the logic. Hell I’d take up arms.

I also think about the logistics of a firefight. Is your gun at the ready for when you hear a noise downstairs? Are you shooting into the dark? What if it’s the incompetent Sherriff’s office at the wrong house for a no-knock raid? What if they do knock? Where are you hiding? What happens after you’re shot? Let’s say you win the firefight – what then? Do you flee? If so, why not just flee in the first place to avoid the chance of death? What if you’re the only one that dies in the firefight and your wife is left alone? Is that better? What if just SHE dies? There is literally no way this goes down that works for me.

This is a scary time, and whatever plans I draw up will ensure the best chances of keeping my family alive. I hope you and yours are and stay safe.

Either die in a hail of gunfire or never see her again isn’t really the dilemma (yet). trump’s deportations are fucking horrific, but these prisons do not have a 100% death rate. I figure our odds are better fighting to get her out alive rather than a gunfight.

Y’all can keep the wild west fantasy. I’m being realistic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

disgusting low effort troll reply

Im willing to bet the odds she’ll die at the death camp are lower than in a close quarters gunfight with a bunch of dumbfucks firing away.

Feel free to go out in an unnecessary blaze of glory though. Very macho 👌

I’d do my best to make sure I could see my wife again

You’re going to get into a firefight with federal cops with your wife around? Genuinely asking what the “find out” part is

I have had the good fortune of being borderline gay with all my friends for my whole life. I wish it upon everyone

You’re not wrong. I think if anything this is making fun of men who fall down the hate pipeline

This isn’t true as I was mistaken. The gap apparently is 1 cent when adjusting for positions. I think this is an overly simplistic view which unduly shifts the blame to women, when in fact society and our economic systems push women towards particular jobs (or motherhood) and compensates far less.

Hers a source I linked elsewhere:

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

I’m mistaken on that point then, though there is still a measurable gap. There is a large disparity in the “unadjusted” numbers which the article you sent notes is just as important as the adjusted one. It represents a power disparity. Ty for the correction

Here’s another reliable source:
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

The gap exists between identical positions – that’s like the whole thing

I think it’s phrased like this because it’s less acceptable for men to express feelings like sadness or loneliness. men and boys who are lonely and alienated can more easily fall down the Andrew Tate/4Chan/Jordan Peterson/blackpill pipeline which yields violent extremist behavior. Obviously it’s not only men

Yes

I had a product arrive from etsy fairly cheaply packaged and partially nonfunctional until I took it apart and reassembled it. 5 stars for the indie seller tho

I’m so tired of the media circus shit. I wish we could elect someone utterly boring and pragmatic :(

I’d rather have a decent person who doesn’t r*pe minors

Havent even had the sniffles in like almost 4 years. Y’all can keep your gross ass germs to yourself 🤗