• The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    The problem is those “Centrists” are the mainstream Democratic party. There is no left-wing in national politics. The left has no one to vote for.

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      10 hours ago

      Representative democracy is a lie, but if they let you vote you can still use that vote to help choose your adversary. Better a genocidal ‘centrist’ than a genocidal fascist, at least until the left is strong enough that they could take the right in a fight credibly enough for the ‘centrists’ to pick the left.

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        9 hours ago

        Better a genocidal ‘centrist’ than a genocidal fascist

        This idea is exactly why no real leftists voted for Democrats recently. If they’re both genocidal, IDGAF about the rest of their label. There are no genocidal centrists. Genocide is always a fascistic action. Getting rid of “the other”. Democrats, by supporting genocide, declared themselves as right-wingers and extremists.

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          5 hours ago

          Same. There are some views that should disqualify one from holding public office, and supporting genocide is one of them.

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          5 hours ago

          While you are correct, voting for democrats is not because we love them and love everything they do. We vote democrat because we need to keep the batshit insane far right out of power.

          If we don’t or if we vote far right, a lot MORE people will suffer and die. That does not mean we agree or like or approve that people suffer and die under democrat rule.

          Under biden people were deported and put in camps. But under trump they are put in concentration camps in a foreign country where they will most likely not leave alive.

          Either we get shot in the leg (democrats) and we fight and do everything we can to help others. or we get shot in the head (republican/far right) and we can’t do anything to help others because we are either dead or in a concentration camp in el salvador.

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            4 hours ago

            Nah, no one is going to convince me the Dems care about the rights of women while they support Israel starving and dropping bombs on unarmed women and children. Don’t tell me they care about the rights of people of color, but just not the ones they are spending billions of dollars to mass murder in Palestine. There are no such things as halfway fascists. You either support genocide or you don’t, and the Dems support it, just like the MAGAs do. They only care about the rights of their corporate overlords like Musk and Bill Gates. The USA has been funding concentration camps overseas for decades. All of Palestine is a concentration camp and everything happening there is because of the USA funding it and preventing the UN from sanctioning Israel. Both parties are in lockstep for this.

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        10 hours ago

        Wise take. We live in this world, we have to make the better choice, even if it’s still a bad one. Maybe later you can move from genocidal ‘centrist’ to a non genocidal one, but this is a full on accelerated descent into amorality, hatred and love of ignorance for the US.