19-year-old Ximena Arias-Cristobal came to the United States when she was a toddler

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    This is besides the point (obviously people should never be deported for traffic infraction), but right turn on red (RTOR) which is mainly a thing in North America (US, Canada, Mexico) is idiotic. (1) it barely save any car driver time on the road, (2) contrary to popular beliefs, in modern car it doesn’t save any fuel, (3) sometimes the signs are confusing, e.g. “no right turn on red except…” - which is a double negative (4) it increases risk of collision when people who are doing RTOR fail to insufficiently yield to oncoming traffic, and (5) it increases risk of collision against cyclist who are always on right side of the road.

    (5) is especially jarring if a car wants to make RTOR while the cyclist wants to go straight and waiting on the traffic light to turn green. The cyclist counts as a vehicle occupying the turning lane, so a car technically is not allowed to make RTOR when a cyclist is present, but most times the cyclist just get honked at and have to yield, either go backwards or go onto the sidewalk to accommodate a car making RTOR. Alternatively, if you are a cyclist and don’t want to deal with intersection that allow RTOR, then you can make a vehicular lane change onto the middle lane and cycle in the middle of the road but obviously this is also dangerous. Study have shown that adoption of RTOR increases the risk of cyclist crashes by up to 100% (e.g., twice as likely). Zador, Paul (1984). “Right-turn-on-red laws and motor vehicle crashes: A review of the literature”. Accident Analysis & Prevention. 16 (4): 241–245. doi:10.1016/0001-4575(84)90019-8.

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    She’s a CRIMINAL! This is what CRIMINALS get!

    -People who Elected a 34 Count Felon found Liable for RAPE!

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    Yeah it sounds like she isn’t a citizen. That sucks but does anyone in the US expect to be able to live in another country for decades without a visa or citizenship? I’m not for draconian immigration policies and randomly deporting people but if you aren’t a citizen and you aren’t allowed to stay then this is what happens. You know like everywhere else in the world.

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      Yes. Why not? Countries are made up, and people are real.

      I’m not surprised you have this opinion, though! Humans are animals, and most of them have no capacity for moral deliberation. They build things like airplanes, but don’t know why. They enjoy art, but they don’t know how. They feel, but can’t begin to analyze (let alone understand) their own dumbass emotions.

      Most humans are a cosmic joke (or maybe a horror) meant to keep the rest of us humble. And you’re a prime example of that.

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      She was brought here as a child. She doesn’t know any other home. The right thing to do would be to let her stay and help her get legal citizenship.

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      That sucks but does anyone in the US expect to be able to live in another country for decades without a visa or citizenship?

      So just give her citizenship? She’s been in the country since she’s a toddler, literally what is stopping them from offering her citizenship? Nations are made up, borders are imaginary.

      I’m not for draconian immigration policies and randomly deporting people

      Yes you are. You think it’s okay to deport someone for a minor traffic violation.

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        She isn’t being deported for a traffic violation…is that what you all think? It is OK to be deported if you are found out to be illegally staying in a country though. Kind of like literally every other country. If there is a country letting people just move to it let me know please.

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      Man, a bunch of people showed up here and killed the people who lived here, planted a flag and said it was theirs. Nobody here except the Native Americans are truly Americans if you want to play that stupid game. So by that logic, we should all gtfo except for them.

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        Hahahahah. Your enumeration of my logic reflects more on you.

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          You’re the one here telling people that have lived in this country their entire lives to get out, not me. So, you tell me who’s the asshole.

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            The amount of “but that’s not fair” on Lemmy is hilarious. Have none of you people been out in the world? I hate to burst your little digital bubble. The world isn’t fair and all I’m doing is being surprised by something every other country in the world does. Shrug.

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          So, when it comes down to it, all you could come up with was (checks notes), “No, U!” Very philosophy and much wise over here.

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        Draconian != anyone can stay in a country even if they don’t have the legal right? That’s just standard in the world unless I missed something. Go and try staying with years in the UK. What do you think they’ll do when you pop up on their radar? Give you citizenship?

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          It seems that you may not understand the definition of Draconian. It means cruel or severe, and that’s exactly what this would be. She’s been in the US since she was a toddler so not her choice. She knows no other home. Where exactly should she be sent? How would you personally deal with being extradited to some country that you’ve never set foot in or for all we know don’t speak its language? Sounds very severe and cruel to me. No one is saying anyone can stay in a country.

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          again: what proof do YOU have? hint: you have none and it’s not in the first half. hint two: she’s innocent until proven guilty. something ICE terrorists have chosen to not do.