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DNC just had a chair election like 2 months ago and we got the most progressive chair in over 50 years…
It’s the only transparent part of the process, and people seem to want to be intentionally ignorant about such a huge win.
we got the most progressive chair in over 50 years
I mean… that’s an extremely low bar to clear. And he wasn’t even the most progressive candidate running.
A fair playing field is all progressives need to win the primary. And a progressive candidate is all we need to win the general
It is a very low bar, but we undoubtedly cleared it
And if a Dem wins the next general, they get to essentially name the new chair.
No one said Ken is the last step, but it’s all downstairs now. Even if we fall we’re going in the right direction at least.
The DNC is, and always has been, a red herring thrown off by those who want to justify their endorsement of Republican victories.
Nobody cares about the RNC,and they literally have the exact same amount of power. The only real difference is that Dem primary voters rejected the more-extreme candidate in 2016, while Red primary voters stumbled their way to Trump after losing two POTUS campaigns that they thought would be easy wins.
There’s a whole bunch of blame to go around on the left for 2024, but arguing “the DNC is corrupt” doesn’t help anyone learn from the mistakes.
(Personally, I am going to refer to Biden 2024 for the rest of my life whenever someone questions a primary challenge to an incumbent.)
The only real difference is that Dem primary voters rejected the more-extreme candidate in 2016,
If you think voters have had a day since 2008…
You should do a lot more listening and a lot less talking.
(Personally, I am going to refer to Biden 2024 for the rest of my life whenever someone questions a primary challenge to an incumbent.)
Because that is literally the complete opposite of what you should have learned
They shoved an uncharismatic, unpopular, conservative, genocide supporting geriatric down our throats again after 4 years of inaction after hiding his mental decline over four years.
And you’re like:
The problem is they stopped shoving him down our throats
Obama won the 2008 Dem primary because more people voted for him.
Hilary won the 2016.dem primary because more people voted for her.
Biden won the 2020 Dem primary because more people voted for him.
There wasn’t a serious challenge in 2024, so when the ageist drumbeat in the establishment finally chased him out the damage was done.
I’m not surprised that someone who thinks “the person more people wanted won” is evidence of corruption would hear “mention 2024 whenever someone questions a Dem primary” and jump to the entirely wrong understanding.
Let me re-state, more clearly:
No incumbent democratic should ever get to skip the primary when they run for re-election. Every damn one, especially for POTUS, should have to succeed at persuading primary voters. There is no merit to skipping the primary, and Biden 2024 would have either dropped out earlier or been in campaign shape.
Hell, if no one else the VPOTUS should run a primary challenge. It’s how most have gotten the job for decades, and tied in to their actual constitutional responsibility anyway.
2016 is the easiest:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
But it’s been almost a decade since that story broke, and people still pretend it didn’t happen…
I’m not complaining tho, it’s an easy way to disprove everything you’re saying. It’s undeniable that the 2016 primary was influenced.
You’re really bad at arguing your position.
How exactly does a “the DNC was broke and badly run in 2016!” cash-out book translate to proof that the democratic primary contests didn’t go to the candidate who got more votes?
The DNC has more control over the nomination process than the RNC does.
There’s a whole bunch of blame to go around on the left for 2024, but arguing “the DNC is corrupt” doesn’t help anyone learn from the mistakes.
It does. Since the DNC is corrupt, they’ll need to be either coerced or sidestepped entirely for any real change to happen. “The DNC is corrupt” is a prelude to the much more important argument of “unity behind the DNC will never get us anywhere,” which I hope was made abundantly clear by the last nine years of American politics.
, they’ll need to be either coerced or sidestepped entirely for any real change to happen.
THAT HAPPENED IN FEBRUARY 2025
you’re yelling that we need to have a fight that we’ve been having for decades and literally just won…
Ken Martin had his first real test in David Hogg and he failed it. He might be an improvement, but he seems to not be a radical change from what was there before. That said my point isn’t that the DNC should be reformed (though that would certainly be welcome), but that the American left needs to be willing to criticize and organize against the DNC. If that’s not necessary then all is good, but American progressives need to be willing to beat the Democratic Party with a stick when it misbehaves rather than make excuses about how every election is The Most Important Election Ever™. Around these parts in 2024 you couldn’t write anything criticizing the DNC or Biden (later Harris) without being called a Russian troll and that attitude needs to change.
