Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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    What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.

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    This is why after 60, I’m not going to try to be president. I’m retiring. Guy spent the last few good years he had stressed out running the country when he should’ve been playing bingo and sitting on a beach.

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    I wish him ease of his suffering in direct proportion to how much he eased innocent Palestinians suffering. Seems only fair.

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    Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).

    Good luck Biden.

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    Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).

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    Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)

    • If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.

    • With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.

    • Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.

    • Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.

    • After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.

    • Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.

    • If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.

    • As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.

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    This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70’s and 80’s have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.

    But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don’t have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work…kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you’re 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can’t make money from you. If you’re well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there’s no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don’t care if they got paid. Its all about the money.

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    It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.

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      I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.

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      Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.

      Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.

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      Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.

      It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.

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        It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.

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          Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.

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            Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”

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        its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer

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          Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.

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        I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.

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        What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?

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      With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.

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    This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.

    We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.

    We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.

    I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.

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    fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president

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          I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:

          Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

          I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.

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            I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though

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              As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?

              Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?

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                Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.

                If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.

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                  Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.

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              Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:

              What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???

              I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.

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              Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.

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                Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.

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                  Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

                  Agreed.

                  He deserves much worse.

                  Agreed.

                  Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.

                  Hard disagree.

                  You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.

                  If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.