TV would also have you believe being President of the US is somehow not a job for a clown.
I worked in a warehouse many years ago, one of the office people also worked in a cop shop. She said the people that worked in the sex crimes dept spent very little time in the dept before moving on because of how fucked up they would get working those crimes.
L&O: SVU was so much stupidity with the same 6 cops working there but not commiting suicide from having to deal with sex crimes 24/7/365.
Cops most likely commit more sexual assault than they prosecute.
Less than 1% of rapes lead to felony convictions.
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a hybrid of copaganda, and military propaganda NCIS. especially the showrunner/writers goes all thirsty though.
criminal minds too, but FBI-ganda. pre-firing of Hotches actor.
…and then there’s “COPS”.
I vividly remember watching and loving many of the police dramas when i was younger. C.S.I. being my favourite.
I remember stumbling across COPS on one of the newer “cooler” swedish channels thinking, oh, thats so cool, they will totally be like the shows i like.
After one episode of screaming, loud, obnoxious and frankly stupid people being chased by their equals, my illusion was shattered. Or atleast i knew that COPS weren’t for those that likes to see crime get solved.
The police aren’t there to keep you safe, they’re there to protect the interests of the oligarchs
Tesla Lives Matter!
otoh whenever i think of svu i think of
barry allenjohn mulaney doing ice-t being confused about everythingI think of Chris Meloni scowling and occasionally punching people
In Colorado right now, if a survivor goes through the ordeal of a sexual assault evidence exam, the state lab will take 554 days before they get around to analyzing it. (Here’s a CPR story about the backlog.)
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Actual police in small towns are way closer to Reno 911 than Law & Order.
I’ve seen reno 911.
Ive also seen true evil where the sheriff rules the town with an iron fist, terrorizing everyone he wants to.
Surprised we don’t have more shows like that.
Watch the last season of Fargo.
Reno 911 is also copaganda
Reno 911 is copaganda if you see it as a comedy, but the opposite if you see it as a documentary.
Now I’m wondering if there’s a cop show that isn’t copoganda.
Their comment made me want to ask if Naked Gun and Police Academy are copaganda.
What about Ace Ventura? Or Paul Blart?
Neither one of those are cops.
I dare you to say that to their face.
Ace would be complimented.
Blart wouldn’t be able to catch me.
It’s old, but The Wire
Shit… That’s “old” now?
Really? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I’ve always thought Reno 911 made cops look like incompetent assholes.
Which is still better than reality.
Care to elaborate?
Not the other user but I’ll answer: It effectively kawaiis them. Makes them seem like harmless goofballs instead of the vindictive organized predators that they all too often are. Gives viewers a false sense of security surrounding interactions with cops. Effectively erases the scale of the intentional and traumatic harm that they do to communities. Makes them seem relatable, in the way that your stupid silly friend is relatable. All in all, excuses them.
I’m not sure if we watched the same show, I recall them doing all sorts of harmful and/or illegal things that most decent people would not find relatable at all. It definitely doesn’t portray them as the deliberate organized evil that real life law enforcement actually are, but it’s a comedy and this is the US it never would have been greenlit in the first place if they did. I think it does a good job of undermining the public image of US law enforcement in a way that deeply indoctrinated Americans won’t immediately dismiss as hostile.
Those idiots definitely shot each other and other people more than they should. When they did something illegal they would cover it up. I recall one episode where they arrested someone but accidentally shot each other and decided to pin it on the person they arrested.
I’d say the show was pretty accurate.
The word copaganda is a copaganda. Makes me think cops are like ninja turtles when they are not.
In relation the image that the OP posted;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raq7JZ9dDtI
It’s a very dark sketch about police “investigating” sexual assassult claims.
Edit: Fixed the link
Your link doesn’t work
Thanks, I fixed it.
Thankies
I 100% guarantee you there are very proper, professional teams of investigators who do prosecute rape thoroughly.
For women with rich dads.
*white women with rich dads
FTFY
The Rookie is another Copaganda show.
A bunch of cops all nerding out over following the law, ethical treatment of minorities, keeping each other in line, actively forcing out bad cops…
What planet is this?
I really like the cast and the show is fun, but it’s as much fantasy as the Rings Of Power.
Recommended: The Rookie & Why Tech won’t save Policing
I’ve got a buddy that worked out of the same precinct the show supposedly takes place in. He obviously can’t stand any aspect of the show.
Hates it? Why? Because it’s completely unrealistic?
Pretty much.
Edited to add: hate is probably too strong a word. He just doesn’t enjoy it and doesn’t watch it.
Because Fillions too pretty
on the other hand, maybe it will inspire people to become cops with morality?
i doubt it… but id rather hand a standard that they’re failing at, at leastI’m pretty sure anyone who becomes a cop to “reform it from the inside” will either be corrupted or pushed out. There’ve been a couple high profile cases of cops trying to reform, and they were rewarded with prizes like being shot in the head or having dead rats left in their mailboxes.
There was also a guy who was forcibly committed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft#Raid_and_involuntary_commitment
Oh, I didn’t know about this one. Thanks for the link. Adding it to my mental dossier on police bullshit.
This American life has some good bits on his situation.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent/act-two-0
while agree, they can only do that with so many cops at a time… What if, in a larger city, the entire graduating class of police academy is extremely morally motivated, and grew up inspired to be a by-the-book, actually good cop? They couldn’t fuck all of them up.
also, Serpico was a really good movie…
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all i’m saying is: it could be doing more good as inspiration, than bad as copaganda… i dunno… could be… maybe…I mean, technically true in a “picture a spherical frictionless cow” kind of sense, but not something you’re going to find in real life. Most people are susceptible to corruption. Cops have a lot of power, and we all know the saying about power corrupting.
On top of that, I’m pretty sure much of the training they’re getting to be cops is bad. They don’t spend nearly enough time on deescalation, I think , for example.
So many problems in all the other cop shows.
- Shooting at people running away
- The suspect is always guilty, we just have to prove it
- One bad cop per two seasons always from a different precinct
Same with CSI and… [unpopular opinion] Brooklyn 99.
CSI was fun but not as thirsty/sucking off as NCSI. on a several instances the showrunner was virtue signalling at the end of the episode for them, with a message.(its military propaganda but also ties into copaganda too since its on the “civilian side”
Yeah CSI made you think that there was this dedicated team of people trying to get to the bottom of every case being very diligent and careful with every piece of evidence and the chain of custody, instead of a couple of dipshits who forget to label every baggie and throw everything to a box and toss it in the back room someplace.
csi made it seem like it was well funded/overfunded in the labs and investigations too. im pretty most of the funding goes into PR/campaigning and police salaries and pensions, rather than the operations to solve crimes.
It goes like this: “Are they black? If so, we won’t even elaborate.”
Brooklyn 99 was a genuinely good comedy
It was also copaganda
but not as hard as the current shows though.
On the bright side, as far as copaganda goes it is pretty mild.
The cops are portrayed as human, and more often than not as incompetent idiots, the federal agents are almost exclusively portrayed as assholes, they never portray violation of rights or due process as a necessary evil, prison is portrayed as, quote, “real bad”, a pseudomasculine bigot gets punched in the face, a racist stop-and-frisker is unequivocally an asshole, the most competent cops eventually get sidelined, punished, or straight up quit in moral protest…
It is copaganda, but by the last season post-COVID and post-Floyd, you can feel the wind completely fall out of their sails. They try to wrap up the story quickly while acknowledging the ongoing horrors, and they do their best to recognize the role they played in romanticizing law enforcement by making it clear that everyone on the squad is disillusioned and disturbed by the system.
Several of them flat out quit, and they have an incredible scene of corruption in action where they make it clear that fixing the NYPD through its own internal buearacracy is literally impossible.
Still copaganda for most of the show’s run, and also absolutely a genuinely good comedy.
It wasn’t. It had a few good lines/scenes, but not very funny to me at all. Couldn’t make it through the first episode, Sandberg just isn’t funny.
You kinda have to give any American sitcom at least half a season before you can really judge it. They pretty much all start out rubbish and it’s only when the actors grow into the roles can you tell if it’s actually gonna be good.
FWIW Brooklyn 99 was very much an ensemble comedy by the time it got going rather than primarily focusing on Samberg, even though he was still ostensibly the lead role.
I tried. I like all the actors, but Sandberg and just couldn’t do it. I’d rather rewatch scrubs or the office again.
Sorry I just said that because you said you couldn’t get through the first episode—I don’t think I’d have thought it was any good if that was all I saw either. The standard American sitcom rule I follow is 4-6 episodes before I can really tell if it’s actually gonna work, until that point the characters usually come across as 1 dimensional even if it ends up being good.
But fair play regardless, everyone likes different stuff!
No I get it. It took a few tries to get started in the office and in the wire also. I just don’t have the time anymore to wade through stuff that I just don’t really care for.
Right but just because you personally didn’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t a good comedy. I understand that you are now saying it’s not something you personally care for, but your original comment was stating that it being bad was objectively true. Like, I can say that I think The Simpsons is a bad comedy, and I could provide a bunch of data to back it up but I can’t say that The Simpsons is a bad comedy, because how did it get to 36 seasons in counting if people weren’t enjoying it?
Fantasy comedy
Much like The West Wing
Edit: not that it’s much of a comedy, but it’s definitely a fantasy about how the executive branch should work if we had halfway ethical and competent people working there.
Watched it all again last year. Love me some competency porn.
I don’t know. If anything shows how blatantly corrupt cops are, it is that show.
the MSMs would never allow it, especially if the owners are conservaties too.
It can be both
I don’t disagree
Yeah as much as I love Jake and Amy and Captain Holt, B99 is copaganda. Once I saw it that way, I couldn’t watch it anymore.
same for doctors
wierd like the medical-ganda and firefighting propaganda came out as the copaganda shows, generic shows. not as good as HOUSE MD or the ones in the 2000s.
Firefighter TV shows actually make firemen look worse.
i havnt upkeeped with FF one, but i follow one on yt, but its a gay fire fighter flick. im quite curious thoug?
