Overall solid meme content, but when when I lived in a rural area cars where what let us connect with the community because we were so spread out. When living in the city I was less connected to the community because I disliked my neighbors…
I don’t think you’re referring to the same kind of ruralness as the op.
If you’ve seen the rural areas of the midwest its literally acres of fields, one farmhouse and its accompanying sheds/silos/whatever, and then more vast area of field or wilderness
Like this.
There’s some decently rural parts of california, but honestly they aren’t even close to the midwest levels of ruralness.
Hmm yea the forest areas are a certain kind of ruralness. Honestly I forget we have forests out in cali, socal is like all dry or beach, and norcal is either dead grass as well or coastal areas like half moon bay and sf.
Yes lmao. My grandparents didn’t get a road until like 2010. And that “road” is a dirt road the county grades once a year and is about 1 mile from their house.
Rural America is incredibly rural. I just checked, their county (an unincorporated county at that) has a density of 14 people per square mile.
Right, because it’s totally feasible to run a personal rail line to every home in a rural community. Taxpayers will happily pay for miles of rail so one family can get to town.
It was totally feasible to run a rail line to every single grain elevator in every rural community. It was infeasible NOT to. If you can’t get to your local agricultural distribution infrastructure, you can’t do agriculture in the first place. So yeah, why can’t rural communities all be served by trains?
There isn’t a grain elevator on every farm, farmers transport grain to them on trucks. So yeah, passenger rail as frequent as grain elevators would be great. Still need cars to get there.
Cheaper than asphalt roads in most climates. If you actually have a reason to live out there, like a farm, you’ll likely appreciate the freight capacity!
I know, car brains who ‘live rural’ haven’t heard of agriculture before, but, i assure you; it does fucking exist!
Trains are the only thing that exists besides cars. Maybe we shouldn’t, maybe car brains should all just get the fucking wall, but there are plenty of options.
And people drive themselves on those roads. You need to hire people to run and maintain the trains.
How far do you expect people to walk? The rural parts of my state have an average of less than 10 people per square mile. Is the train stopping every mile or two? Not terribly efficient. Trains between and around population centers would be great, but expecting rural people to fully ditch cars is just completely infeasible.
Yeah, I think people over and underestimate the value of rural public transit. The underestimating is that people vastly overestimate rurality. Small cities whose residents think of themselves as rural often would benefit from public transit, though trams may be a better option.
But the fucking boonies, places that never had a train or tram but they used to just have horses, those places benefit from personal vehicles. I wish those places would recognize that they’re a small minority of the population and infrastructure shouldn’t prioritize their ability to not take transit once they get into the city, but they do need accommodation
I’m honestly struggling to see how it could. I dunno what it is with people on Lemmy getting so hyper fixated on trains and thinking they’re the solution to nearly every transport solution.
Trains are great for moving large amounts of people between big urban areas, but terrible for more point to point travel. Busses make more sense than trains in rural areas but cars will always be way more practical.
Overall solid meme content, but when when I lived in a rural area cars where what let us connect with the community because we were so spread out. When living in the city I was less connected to the community because I disliked my neighbors…
There are ways to use other less violent transportation methods. I have lived in places that barely had roads. Im jot sone life long city mouse.
And this was in california, so it wasn’t flat.
This “rural needs cars” bullshit is delusional and disingenuous. Please stop, if you’re not a paid fucking shill.
I don’t think you’re referring to the same kind of ruralness as the op.
If you’ve seen the rural areas of the midwest its literally acres of fields, one farmhouse and its accompanying sheds/silos/whatever, and then more vast area of field or wilderness
Like this. There’s some decently rural parts of california, but honestly they aren’t even close to the midwest levels of ruralness.
Maybe not south of sacramento, if desert doesn’t count.
We do in fact have woods and undeveloped areas here. Some of the woods get pretty deep.
Hmm yea the forest areas are a certain kind of ruralness. Honestly I forget we have forests out in cali, socal is like all dry or beach, and norcal is either dead grass as well or coastal areas like half moon bay and sf.
California is kinda big. We have fucking rain forests here.
The lobbying of the car industry is the only reason you need a car to get to your community. Trains could do it better.
The rural community consisted of farms spread out miles apart in various directions across hilly terrain.
Shut the fuck up. Does not require cars. Nothing, with the possible exception of nascar, requires cars.
Different, maybe, but not require cars. Stop lying you car brain shit stick.
I mean, was this the situation before cars? I fail to imagine a person living miles from the next human being without a car.
Cars made rural communities dependant on them. It’s not a fatality.
Yes lmao. My grandparents didn’t get a road until like 2010. And that “road” is a dirt road the county grades once a year and is about 1 mile from their house.
Rural America is incredibly rural. I just checked, their county (an unincorporated county at that) has a density of 14 people per square mile.
Guess I’ll just spend all the time raising horses then.
Yeah people couldn’t live outside dense urban cores before cars. Farming was invented by edsel ford.
Right, because it’s totally feasible to run a personal rail line to every home in a rural community. Taxpayers will happily pay for miles of rail so one family can get to town.
It was totally feasible to run a rail line to every single grain elevator in every rural community. It was infeasible NOT to. If you can’t get to your local agricultural distribution infrastructure, you can’t do agriculture in the first place. So yeah, why can’t rural communities all be served by trains?
There isn’t a grain elevator on every farm, farmers transport grain to them on trucks. So yeah, passenger rail as frequent as grain elevators would be great. Still need cars to get there.
Because i need my Ford F40k FLESHREAPER, and i need to drive it around enough for moloch to bless the harvest.
I know, car brains who ‘live rural’ haven’t heard of agriculture before, but, i assure you; it does fucking exist!
Trains are the only thing that exists besides cars. Maybe we shouldn’t, maybe car brains should all just get the fucking wall, but there are plenty of options.
Rural communities did not exist before cars.
I’m not going to bother here.
they already pay for miles of road… which need constant upkeep… and in turn produce tons of micro plastics and smog and noise…
people can walk too, to a station. walking is good for you and would improve population health.
And people drive themselves on those roads. You need to hire people to run and maintain the trains.
How far do you expect people to walk? The rural parts of my state have an average of less than 10 people per square mile. Is the train stopping every mile or two? Not terribly efficient. Trains between and around population centers would be great, but expecting rural people to fully ditch cars is just completely infeasible.
Yeah, I think people over and underestimate the value of rural public transit. The underestimating is that people vastly overestimate rurality. Small cities whose residents think of themselves as rural often would benefit from public transit, though trams may be a better option.
But the fucking boonies, places that never had a train or tram but they used to just have horses, those places benefit from personal vehicles. I wish those places would recognize that they’re a small minority of the population and infrastructure shouldn’t prioritize their ability to not take transit once they get into the city, but they do need accommodation
I love taking public transport in the cities! So much more convenient than even cabs the vast, vast majority of time.
I’m honestly struggling to see how it could. I dunno what it is with people on Lemmy getting so hyper fixated on trains and thinking they’re the solution to nearly every transport solution.
Trains are great for moving large amounts of people between big urban areas, but terrible for more point to point travel. Busses make more sense than trains in rural areas but cars will always be way more practical.
Read a history book, of you can’t imagine.
The IRA were the only people in history who did anything to fix the world’s infrastructure with any chance of working.