This is season 1 of Parks and Recreation. It didn’t really start to get it’s footing until season 2. I’m glad I stuck with it, so many great characters!
Yeah, S1 was trying to be the office too much. The camera shots and everyone’s delivery was just off a bit.
And I don’t think it really landed until season 3 with the cast change.
I like that after Mark leaves, he’s never even mentioned in passing again.
Yeah, on rewatch I generally start at season 2. Same with The Office (US). Both shows are phenomenal, but they take a while to find their footing.
However, I’d certainly argue that even on first viewing, the first seasons can be skipped. You might miss a bit of backstory, but you’d be able to understand most things perfectly fine.
felt the same with What we do in the Shadows
I think a lot of those kind of shows just need to get to know the characters better and see what works and what doesn’t in the first season and then improve on that when viewers also have a better understanding of that
Your mom is a great character.
Even then, you could skip half or more of season 1. I can’t remember which to skip, but there’s advice online somewhere I’m sure.
One Piece fans lmao.
This week’s episode is actually really good. You just have to watch the other 1071 episodes first and I swear you’ll like it.
I think that’s just called Stockholm Syndrome.
My GF loves One Piece, she started me at just one episode quite a ways in - the one with Bink’s Sake - basically just to say “hey look, this story is actually going somewhere”. Then we started at like episode 60 or so and kept watching from there - it’s definitely a lot rougher, but I’m hooked enough now to watch it with her!
I can’t deny this lol. Sometimes you like it from the start, but the start is very corny since it was made in the 90s, so it doesn’t grab everyone right away, but it matures really well over time and becomes more timeless. But even then I have to admit it can be an acquired taste with its cartoony style and wacky characters/world.
It’s a typical shounen with all it’s troupes and cringy narrative. The start shouldn’t shock people. It actually manages to grab people quickly enough compared to other shounens at their beginning.
Over the years the story matures and develops accompanying their audience. The beginning was for teens and now it still has the same fans and followers that are in their thirties.
It’s hard for shows that are so long lived to maintain their engagement.
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You’re right and wrong, but the way you said it makes me think no one likes talking to you or much less holding a conversation with you. Which is why that’s all I’ll say.
I’m not really sure why it’s such a bad thing. The fact that they’re there and alive doesn’t necessarily detract from the story. They interact with so many other characters that get a lot of screen time compared to the main crew, and those characters eventually leave or die. And it’s fine. I’m not looking for the crew members to die and be replaced.
Tf are you doing trying to critique a show you’ve never watched or read based on random video game versions of them, neither of which are accurately placed in any part of the canon timeline and are just for fun. That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. That’s like judging a series based on nothing but the McDonald’s happy meal toys based on them. There’s so much wrong with what you said I’m not even gonna bother trying to address it seriously.
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I think what you’re smelling is your own farts my dude. Nobody’s forcing you to watch it, in fact I’m glad you won’t.
It’s unfortunate that it is true. No going around it - the first 25 or so episodes are cartoonish and the old drawing style kept a lot of people away. I tried to convince people to stick with it but most of my friends left it around episode 2 or 3.
It’s also evident that it is perceived as a dumb teens series since producers brought it to TV to a channel named 4Kids. And then they quickly realized by the second batch of episodes that kids definitely shouldn’t watch that.
That’s why I’m hoping the live action becomes a success. One piece has a lot of amazing things, but the anime adaptation is just shat out of someone’s ass every week. I can’t recommend that to anyone.
If Netflix is successful in recreating the one piece experience - and so far it looks like they are - I’ll finally have something to show people why I like this story so much.
It’s like they suffer from “sunk cost fallacy” but with entertainment.
‘I’ve already watched 30 episodes of this show… But I can’t stop now. Not until it gets good!’
I recently watched a video called Why Do We Play Games We Hate? I feel it applies to other media as well.
The thing that stuck out to me was that some people don’t feel ready to decide whether or not they like something until they’ve totally completed the experience. They feel it isn’t fair to judge the partial product, so they’ll stick it out through the end, even if it’s terrible, just so they say without a doubt they did not like it.
I can understand the mentality, but sometimes you have to just jump ship.
I kinda got sad when he got back to the main topic about games and stopped talking about the history of the concord.
He taught me a lesson about aviation engineering history I didn’t expect to learn, I’ll give him that.
I have a friend who grimly stuck it out through Wheel of Time long after he stopped enjoying it out of completionism.
Screw that.
For books, I get it. I feel a deep compulsion to finish any book I start, whether I like it or not.
For television shows? Nah, I’ll stop right away if I get bored.
The books or the godawful Amazon series?
Books.
Yeah, I don’t blame him. If the slog were one or two books, that would be forgivable, but four and the majority of Knife of Dreams is excessive.
I’m pretty sure I would never have fully read the series if I didn’t start it as a teen with too much time to spare
I enjoyed even the first season of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but it really starts to pick up in Season 2 when they introduce Danny DeVito’s character. Well, it really starts to pick up when his character evolves into trash goblin mode in like Season 3/4. Well okay actually seasons 5/6/7 are where it gets REALLY good!
Shit, if a show doesn’t interest me after 30 minutes I’m done with it. If the story only gets interesting after the forced exposition dump part of the script, then the script needed more work before they filmed it. In my opinion anyway.
Yep, went the same route myself. I’m looking at you, Critical Role campaign 1 👀
But for others I always recommend start with the 3rd now.
I’m your worst nightmare. I refuse to get to s2 or s3 until I finish the dredge that is s1 because I’m of the belief that CR is only good because the people who watch it went through s1 first
Ooooh I respect that. You have a lot of patience xD I’m trying to finish 1 rn btw. Only watched a couple of episodes of 2 and 3 to check out and decided to leave it for later as well as you. To get a more full picture I guess…
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I started reading Neal Stephenson’s book ‘Anathem.’ Threw it down after twenty pages, because it was just ridiculous. A few months later someone told me to stick with it, the plot really starts coming together around page 200.
Yes, I read it, and yes, it takes 200 pages to start making sense.
Am I misremembering or does it have a lot of made up terms?
I always describe Stephenson this way; some college professors will just answer your question; some will tell you what page of the book to read; some will answer the question in Latin, making a pun. Stephenson loves his little enigmas.
This image is fucking with me because the way it’s drawn reminds me a lot of Family Guy, and Family Guy is one of those rare cases where this concept is inverted and the show starts going to shit after season 3.
The first few seasons were so good.
Just wait until you get to season 107, it will really pick up!
Star Trek TNG.
It’s literally Season 3, too.
Annoyingly, there are one or two really good episodes in Seasons 1 and 2. But the majority are total crap.
TNG, DS9, and VOY really.
I feel like this comic should be letting in people who convinced others to stick with DS9.
I literally just started with season 3 (for the first time) and I loved most of season 1 and 2
You won’t believe how much better it gets!
I guess I really just love the show then haha
Yeah, but the thing with the old shows is you can just skip ahead. It was all made for an age where everything was self contained. The most you’d get was a two-part episode.
Now it’s all made for the Netflix binge generation, where every new episodes assumes you’ve seen all the previous ones. I mean, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and it gave us great shows like The Wire and Breaking Bad, but it does mean they need to get their shit together immediately, and not have several seasons of shit before they find the story they actually wanted to tell.
I actually liked the first season of TNG.
What is tng?
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Thanks.
Same here. I like the more OG feel the first and second season have, and some of the characters that are only there for those seasons. RIP Tasha Yar 😥
In all fairness that actress showed up fairly often for playing a dead character
so that’s why streaming shows suck, they rarely make it that far.
After GoT and all the cancelled shows on Netflix, Prime, etc. I refuse to get into a show until it has a few seasons under it’s belt. Nothing like getting invested in a show only for them to cancel it.
I avoid shows until they are finished completely
I avoid shows until all the actors playing the main characters are dead. Got into Golden Girls about a year and a half ago, and I figure I’ll be watching Friends from a retirement home.
Unless…
Are you offering your services as an assassin? Because a couple of them DO seem like they might have very annoying personalities…
I’m the same way but it’s quite the catch 22 considering if people don’t want the first season or two it’s unlikely they’ll make another
Clone wars be like
I was sold the moment bug aliens took over Starfleet, and Picard and Riker blew Commander Remmik the fuck up!
I really don’t get the hate for friends. It’s just a tv show with funny bits here and there.
It’s exactly what a sitcom is supposed to be. Light watching that’s generally funny. Also if you miss an episode or two here and there it’s easy enough to pick up what’s going on.
I love shows like that, after a long day of mentally draining work. I don’t want to think, I just want to drink a beer and zone out. Even though I’m still thinking about work lol
Honestly my biggest blunder of this was telling my boyfriend we watch Miraculous Ladybug and that it gets really good in season 5. I honestly lucked out that we both found it a riot from start to end, it’s now one of our favorite shows.
