Red Star OS, a little too much spyware.
too much spyware
That’s just capitalist propaganda. There is no spyware! That’s just innocent telemetry!
I’ve always been intrigued by that one. I want to test it out, but finding an image has proven difficult.
Manjaro feels like a bit of a mess to me and always ends up with problems.
Ubuntu releases too many buggy updates and dumps their idiosyncratic tastes in software on everyone whether people like it or not.
I really don’t get why they want to push snaps so much. Flatpak does basically the same thing but better and is already used by more people. Their efforts would be better spent improving that. It’s also weird that the server side of snaps is proprietary, I can’t help but think that they may have intentions with that, that go against what the users want.
Ubuntu - It was my first distro and I loved it for many years after 6.06. However, it slowly shifted from a very community focused distro (“Linux for human beings” was the original slogan) to a very corporate distro with lots of in-house bullshit, CLAs, and partially-closed projects that seems to focus on profit and business over actual human beings. I correlate this move to around the time when it became purple rather than brown. Snap sucks, Mir sucks, Unity sucks, integrating Amazon and music store paid bullshit sucks. Just no. Move to Debian.
Manjaro - It’s Arch, but with incompetence!
Red Hat - Do you enjoy paying licensing fees for a Linux distro that very likely violates the open source licenses it uses? RHEL is for you! Just remember not to share the code! Sharing is most certainly NOT caring!
How does Manjaro add incompetence? I’ve not used either for a while, buy Manjaro never failed me, while arch did manage to make my system nuke itself a couple times just running
pacman -Syyu. Granted, this was a long time ago, but it’s the only distro to so this to me ever.The project maintainers repeatedly forget to renew their certificates, causing package upgrades to fail.
The project maintainers, in multiple past instances, have misconfigured their package manager resulting in essentially a DDoS of the AUR.
The packages are out of date vs. the upstream Arch ones, which often causes AUR packages intended for upstream Arch to break on Manjaro. Yet they consider the AUR a supported resource.
Project has had problems with mismanagement of funds in the past.
Despite all this, they seem to heavily focus on marketing, merch, and trying to sell preinstalled systems. Manjaro is in it for profit, not to make an awesome distro.
it’s a reddit imported hate-train because they didn’t renew certificates twice in twenty years and a bug in pamac cause the aur to be ddosed for a few hours total, to tell you how much of an empty bandwagon it is, few years back, manjaro tried to push a closed source office suite in their base installers and none of the clowns parroting anti-manjaro mantras ever mention it, they didn’t think about adding it to the agreed list of accusations in the early days so their copy pasted opinions don’t feature it.
Five times.
RHEL code is available with git. Stop this FUD.
If that were true then none of this would be news. The CentOS Stream code is available to the public on git, but not the RHEL code. If the RHEL code was available to the public the outrage would have no reason to exist.
Even if paying customers have access to the RHEL code via git, they are forbidden from redistributing it (which is allowed by the FOSS licenses that code is under) or else the customers lose their license. This does not qualify as the code being available in my opinion, and in the opinion of the vast majority of the FOSS community.
Saying everything is fine and dandy in the RHEL world is FUD.
Ubuntu because they put ads in the terminal
Ubuntu, dont understand me wrong, the distro is nice but, canonical… My point because i dont like Ubuntu.
Android. Google doesnt invest anything in AOSP it seems, GrapheneOS is the only really well made Distro.
Androids security model is a joke as every phone is bloated with malware that has full access over everything.
Banking apps need Google, map apps need Google.
There is no split screen in AOSP since forever.
No tools on the lockscreen. I am not talking about crazy ios like tools that are basically a seperate OS, its still a lockscreen. But camera and torch?
So many restrictions. RootlessJamesDSP is a good example of crazy workarounds that still dont work in the end. No FOSS appstore with autoupdates is also a pain.
Does GrapheneOS have microg or similar now? The last time I used it, it didn’t have it, and some apps (Signal, I’m looking at you) had a constant notification. I went to CalyxOS, which I like fine, but it’s more for the masses (gives up a little privacy for convenience) than GrapheneOS is.
It has sandboxed google play and services
That’s a good addition to the ecosystem. I don’t know if I want an official Play Services implementation on my phone, though. Even one without root access. I know microg isn’t perfect, but Google has been removed as much as functionally possible from it. I may just deal with the persistent notification, once I upgrade my phone (on 4xl atm), because I really liked everything else about GrapheneOS and want to compare it to CalyxOS properly, not after only 2 weeks on Graphene. How do you like it? Have you noticed that you’re missing anything important?
Calyx is not hardened at all like Graphene. MicroG is supposed to be insecure, I miss UnifiedNLP though.
GrapheneOS has sandboxed Google Play apps, which are said to support all things. So they have the regular apps but with a compatibility layer so they work as normal apps like they should.
I dont use it though, and there is no Openstreetmap redirect or UnifiedNLP
it has something called sandboxed google play services. they claim its more secure and private than microg. also in my experience notifications and location is more reliable with it than microg. also you can disable the constant notification for apps like signal and it still works afaik.
Their sandboxed implementation allows access to the entire profile. They even suggest creating a profile for those apps that require the Google play services. Microg at least removes Google as much as functionally possible in order to limit the data google receives. You lose some functionality, but not enough to cause any issues for me, even not with banking apps.
As far as the persistent notification for Signal: I can disable it, but won’t receive notifications of new messages until I open the app; or I can hide it, but then won’t receive any popup notifications at all (technically, they do come up, but they’re hidden). Haven’t found a way to hide the persistent notification and still receive popup notifications of new messages.
I think what GrapheneOS is doing with Google play services is amazing and, depending on your needs, may be better than microg. It’s just not there yet for me. Additionally, google can suddenly decide that using Google play services like this is against their ToS and submit a cease and desist order against them, and GrapheneOS’s implementation becomes illegal to distribute.
I spent the last 10 mins reading all the comments and I think we managed to shit on all the distros available.
That’s the Linux community I love, good job people <3No one gets left behind
Akuna Matata or some shit
Haven’t seen Santoku or Kali or several other special use-case distros (E: or Hannah Montana Linux hahahaha). But, yes, this is exactly the community I love and that extreme hate/love for specific distros is the reason I tried Linux in the first place (and the reason I stayed) hahaha
Nobody shits on MX, it’s a sign 😁
Manjaro, for its incompetence.
I don’t hate Gentoo, but will never use it. I hate compiling.
Upvoted for Manjaro, downvoted for gentoo. (no vote as a result)
Console issued server command: /force_vote @a
Ubuntu.It’ went from a great beginner distro to a dumpster fire filled with snaps and telemetry.
which linux distro do you NOT like, and why?
The one with the most elitist gatekeeping users.
Well, ACTUALLY, they’re only being elitist about the kernel, and they’re gatekeeping about userspace programs, SO…
Debian, as its so MANUAL. Upgrading by manually updating x times and then literally changing the repos manually in the sources list? Wtf? Without any documentation or automation??
QubesOS, as it probably doesnt run on any real hardware. Didnt get beyond a blackscreen, and also AMD consumer GPUs dont support accelerated VMs making it useless.
Ubuntu because its annoying, but unsnap fixes a lot and its actually okay, still outdated Kernel als a bit weird.
KDE Neon because I cant tolerate its not a workstation distro but want it to be one
Linux Mint. Its old, and always had weird crashes for me. Its kinda nice and easy, kinda weird and complicated to do certain things. Some packages dont run as its not Ubuntu. Would always choose any KDE Distro that is newer.
For me it’s Ubuntu. Whenever I tried it it was buggy and crashing. It kinda feels like Windows of GNU+Linux.
About Manjaro, I like it. I kinda feel sad seeing Manjaro get so much hate. The only thing I disliked was the accidental DDoS of AUR. But so far it’s been working relatively well for me. I use Manjaro with Plasma.
And my favorite is Linux Mint. It just works, and it does so reliably. Also the Linux Mint community is really nice.
As such, I donated to Manjaro, Arch, and Linux Mint. Not much, but at least something.
Easily manjaro, so many headaches
Out of all the distros that I’ve tried, probably Manjaro. The distro itself is ok, I don’t like how kind of bloated the default installation is, but it’s not too bad.
However what really pisses me off,among their numerous other controversies, was when they replaced perfectly functional open source apps with proprietary ones…twice. Though the former has since been reversed.
Vivaldi is a great browser tho
So is Firefox, which is open source
Sure, do you go and read the source code for Firefox for every update tho? I used to be a big fan of FF back in the day, it’s my daily browser on my phone but I just really like Vivaldi for desktop 🤷♂️
Just gonna throw this here too…
Manjaro is the one that has caused me the most pain and suffering.
