WTF!!

You’re right honestly on the whole stereotypes thing and I do think I just got up today in a more pessimistic mood and made these comments.

Maybe not but the cia have definitely renditioned people during the war on terror.

The CIA have certainly destabilised more governments that any other organisation I can think of.

I’ve said in another comment that yes what goes on it chinas bordered is fucked up and should be condemned. What I’m talking about is all the hate about the stuff outside it’s borders when to my stupid Brian they don’t do too much.

What is it with you people that are quick to criticise other places but will not take criticism of their own country.

To be abundantly clear, I am not trying to defend China at all, fuck them and their treatment of Uyghurs and citizens in general etc. I am merely trying to find out why China is in vogue, why not NK, Russia, Syria, Sri Lanka etc.

The first actual response with the actual crimes that china commits.

I guess it depends on current morals or the uk of the past. After all we did colonise half the world.

Currently we have some pretty draconian views and removal of a lot of rights. Plus the way the government thinks about ex-pats (sorry I meant immigrants, ex-pat is when we go elsewhere). We invaded Iraq under false pretences.

I just don’t see how we are so hypercritical of one country and any view that questions it is usually (not here,today) condemned as a plant, shill, or Winnie the Pooh himself.

Dude the CIA and GCHQ were found to be spying on their own citizens too.

Like shit I get it china bad but also we are bad too. It’s insane all the posts of avoid Chinese tech as they spy, but it’s cool to buy this American tech as the cia are privacy advocates just like apple. Ffs.

Glass houses and stones is all I’m saying.

And?

You don’t believe that the USA and other counties are working on the same thing?

You don’t think there might be articles in China right now about the CIA and there drone swarms?

If I recall the USA literally murders people with drones and a certain level of collateral damage is acceptable. Or that we dropped two nukes on a country as a flex to Russia.

We littered Laos with enough bombs that people still die today.

All I am saying is we should maybe throw less stones from our glass houses.

Yes in that country and often with act of rendition.

Again, what are they doing on a global scale? Selfish or not m, what goes on in China has little effect on me, but when countries like mine and the USA invade counties under false pretences and people then set off bombs in my country then that does effect me.

All I’m saying is we seem to throw a lot of stones from inside our glass houses.

Is it accurate to call alcohol a poison?

I don’t drink and I can be even more insufferable to my drinking friends with that information.

Why does China always get these kind of comments. I’m from the UK and I have seen my country and the USA do more to destabilise the world than China ever does?

Sure china is fucked if you live there and they have too much power with the manufacturing, but I’m genuinely curious as to why Reddit and Lemmy really like to shit ok china when we most likely live in countries with just as dubious morals.

I never know when I can use ironic

You’re most probably correct and I was just being overly pedantic.

Thanks.

The way I see life is we are here by chance for a limited time. Imma do what I have to do survive, but not just survive but enjoy it too.

I have this view for all laws really. I don’t not kill people because it’s illegal, more I don’t want to kill people and if I did then still the cons far outweighs the pros. It’s just a matter of choosing where you draw the line.

I take issue with literally zero percent.

How many of us came here over the reddit debacle? I can tell you for certain it isn’t zero.

How is stealing a product any different than wage theft from large corporations, families like the sackler being literal drug dealers and paying a fine, etc.

In my og comment I clearly stated that when people feel like society isn’t working for them then what use is following the rules.

FYI: It’s easier to get some XM4s to sell for bills and food than to steal a whole food shop.

I have the same view. People commit crime as they feel they’re not benefiting from the “social contract”, as in it pays to be a civil member of society. Well if you’re not getting what you need then you have to get it elsewhere and hence crime.

I regularly tricked the scales on supermarkets by scanning similar weight items and bagging the expensive thing whilst scanning the cheaper one. Or claiming orders didn’t arrive so I could get it again and then return one. Same for order something expensive and saying they sent a cheaper version. Sony XM4 for cheap for example.

To even more elaborate and long winded scams which I won’t detail here.

Like you, I have had some lucky breaks and I am doing better now, but I will still take what I can from massive corporations as in my eyes, whether right or wrong, they do it to.

Give people a chance at a life and they won’t be criminals. Well most won’t.

Hey us programmers only listen to our engineers or architects. Blame them.

You’d hope so. They do seem to a litigious country.

Yes I believe a good portion are psychopaths or misguided in that they think they’re doing a greater good and they’re better suited to choose how to (or not) distribute that wealth. Like Bill Gates, dude did some terrible shit, then some good shit, but still he had the ego to keep going and building wealth because he thinks he knows best.

The sad thing is you could reset tomorrow and this or similar will always happen again, as like you say, there very nature is what leads them to the top as most people are not like that.

I find It fascinating even though I know very little about psychology.

I would do the same but I do feel, this isn’t defending them, that money seems to change people. Particularly if you build it gradually, you just become accustomed to slight changes.

As another example I have noticed. Look at the unbelievable stuff people have done like Harvey Weinstein, Musk, Trump etc.

I don’t believe people start out that insane or weird, it’s gradual. You’re a little strange but usually your peers keep your ego in check. Now if you happen to be powerful or rich, then the first strange thing you do is minor, they agree to go along and gradually the craziness escalates.

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