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Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You’ve been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I’m not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone’s sanity.
Which the Democrats should absolutely fucking do regardless of whether The Republicans will vote to convict, which of course they won’t, but the point is, we can’t just sit back and do nothing. We have to at least show that we’re willing to take the steps that are necessary to dissent.
There aren’t enough Democrats in Congress to impeach him.
They could at least introduce the resolution. It’s not a true win, but at least they don’t continue to be seen just lying down and taking it.
Mike Johnson won’t bring it to the floor.
It can be introduced as a “privileged resolution“ which bypasses Johnson’s ability to do that. That said the GOP still has a number of options to table it, or refer it to committee, but at least that bypasses that fuckwad Johnson. This fucking government I swear to God. Can we just please have a constitutional convention already?
I’m not particularly confident that a constitutional convention would end positively. You need 3/4 of state legislatures to agree to any change and Republicans are much more likely than Democrats to reach that threshold. The most realistic outcome is probably an amendment banning DEI initiatives or corporate tax rates above 10% or some shit like that.
Impeach Johnson, too. Throw them all out via the 14th amendment. I’m so tired of the republicans being consistently the worst people on earth.
Might as well. They don’t seem to be doing anything else.
Or they’d be seen as pursuing a pointless and performative act they knew wouldn’t work.
You can’t win with people who want you to fail.
Doesn’t matter.
Every impeachable offense needs to be processed. The time the GOP spends defending him is time they aren’t spending actively destroying the world.
Plus, we need to have a clear and firm record of who supports his actions.
even if there were, the gop would never convict him, the last 2 times showed us that.
Trump has already been impeached.
Twice.
The last time he was president.
It doesn’t matter anymore.
And became a felon after that.
Shortly before becoming president for the second time.
And winning the popular vote this time.
Allegedly
I haven’t seen any credible allegation to the contrary, and it’s in line with pre election polling…
That’s like, their opinion, man.
Illegally! Amendment 13, Section 3:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
No such vote was held. The disability was not removed. Allowing the tried and
convictedimpeached and indicted insurrectionist Donald Trump to appear on any ballot for any public position, State or Federal, after he wasconvictedimpeached and indictedoffor insurrection against the United States was the beginning of the Constitutional crisis we are now mired in and all of Congress is complicit.Edited: a word. I don’t give a flying fuck what the corrupted kangaroo circus in DC voted reality was. Anyone able to tie their own shoes who lived through that event knows what the truth is.
That isn’t what he was convicted of. The charges brought that could’ve made this true were related to the 2023 federal indictment consisting of:
four criminal charges of conspiring to defraud the government and disenfranchise voters, and corruptly obstructing an official proceeding.
However, on November 25, 2024 Judge Tanya Chutkan dismissed the case without prejudice.
The felonies he was convicted for were related to the March 2023 state indictment “The People of the State of New York v. Donald J. Trump” which consisted of:
34 criminal charges of falsifying business records in the first degree related to payments made to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election.
At no point has he been convicted of having:
engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
He was convicted of being a fraudster, con-man, liar and sex pest but not for being an insurrectionist. This isn’t a “illegal” problem, it’s a classic case of dual tier justice and the consequences thereof. The justice system is beyond fucked, and has been for a long time. Solutions will not be coming from that line of reasoning.
The cop at the protest yawns, unslings his 40mm LMT™ weapon, loads another rubber bullet into it, looks around the crowd for another reporter, aims, and shoots her in the head.
Idealistic youngling: “Wow, that cop just shot a woman in the head with a rubber bullet, he could totally be charged for that!”
Americans are cowards. Period.
The constitutional right to be ARMED TO THE TEETH and they’re all pissing their pants in fear of… losing their jobs? They literally sat there, watched the worst of humanity seize power, and spent their political capital trying to limit their ability to fight back.
They deserve whatever they get.
It certainly looks as though they’ve pretty thoroughly shat the bed. I suspect they fell for their own propaganda about all the freedom and how they’re the best country in the world etc, forgot that those are just words.
To Americans, their national heroes are just Disney characters without families, jobs, or dreams who never actually had anything to lose and whose victories were guaranteed.
After “shoots her in the head” you forgot “poses for the cameras”
I wish I still lived in the fantasy world where this was plausible.
It still is in many countries around the globe. Please don’t give up hope, it is not a sign of naivety!
That ship has sailed decades ago. The US hasn’t been officially at war since 1945, and the congress has for all intents and purposes gave up on that power.
The speed Congress gave up their constitutional powers to avoid repurcusions for having opinions and voting for them is crazy. But I guess being able to give yourself a raise every year for doing nothing is tempting.
To be fair to the US Congress (AFAIK) no one as been formally at war since 1945 - and unless I’m forgetting anything it would actually make the US Congress the last ones to declare war on anyone.
Since WW2 everything is framed as a peacekeeping mission (when approved even if only implicitly by the UN Security Council), a civil war, helping the legitimate government in a civil war (US in Vietnam or Soviet Union in Afghanistan for example), or when every other excuse fails a pre-emptive special military operation (US in Iraq, Russia in Ukraine, Israel in all of their neighbours + Iran).
And this is a good thing. Declarations of war makes war a legitimate thing. In the past it was a noble and goodly thing to do, all of the correct paperwork has been submitted and so now it’s good and proper for you to go over there and kill those people that have different uniforms.
Also a declaration of war means going from 0 to 100 on everything. There’s no escalation and also no de-escalation. Probably not a good thing to instantly go 0 to 100 once nuclear weapons became a thing.
People often decry how war is no longer a legitimate thing because there’s no longer declarations of war. The reality is, war never was a legitimate thing. Declarations of war were just powerful people making the act of sending people out to kill and be killed seem legitimate.
Yes, the “special operations” and “coalitions of the willing” stuff is bullshit. But so were declarations of war. It’s better you think about whether a military action is actually needed rather than believing a war is proper simply because the people in power did the paperwork correctly.
Declarations of war are bad, but they were made hard to do in modern states. Almost every single countries have rules and procedures in place to make sure a hot head can’t do it over the weekend.
“Special Military Operations” undid all those efforts by putting all the powers back in the hands of a single person.
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Classic war just doesn’t have any appeal these days
The actual purpose of congress is to violently enforce capitalism by rubber stamping imperialism, policing, prisons, etc.
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lemmy.world has the reputation of spinning around an answer and never getting to it.
AIPAC is in charge of both reds and blues when it comes to foreign policy and even some parts of the internal policy.
I remember all it took was some jizz…
Now we have an actual cum stain running this shit show
Cum stains can be washed out of you get em soon enough, but this rag could be frisbee’d at a wall and it’d shatter at this point.
Cum stain? It was a full term pregnancy that gave birth to a big giant orange piece of shit.
To be fair, Clinton did take advantage of an intern in a relationship where the power dynamic meant there could never be meaningful consent, and then he lied about it under oath.
Two things can be true: it was a political hit job where they were just out to get Clinton on anything they could. But also, Clinton did a shitty thing, was caught, then lied about it.
trumps never done anything shitty and/or lied about it
lmao
LOL, compare to now having a convicted felon as president, lied about it, then already committed several crimes after being elected and keeps lying about it. Who cares about a blow job…
Who cares? He was inoeached before already and it literally did NOTHING
Wake me up when this bullshit is actually over, all this “oohh, THIS will end him for sure!” every week is tiring
I completely agree.
However, this is exactly what he wants. The more tired we all become of his bullshit and the more we wave it away then the more bullshit he pulls, and gets away with.If someone, anyone, had given him any consequences to his actions over the past few decades he wouldn’t be like he is. If just one person took him outside and beat the living fuck out of him then I feel things would be different.
Things definitely wouldn’t be like they are now. They may not be much better, but they would be better.Again, I agree it’s tiring. But I also think we shouldn’t give up.
So I hope you, and anyone who reads this, starts to feel less of “this is tiring!” And more of “this is tiring l… but we can’t let that rich obese orange rapist drag me down and get away with it!”Don’t give up!! Fight him. Pull him up on every single thing and ridicule him.
Fuck it, impeach him every single fucking day; he’s got enough crimes for it. Lock up congress and make the GOP cult show up every day and bend the knee to the orange fascist instead of doing a single thing for the US.
Also people in democratic leadership roles should start prosecuting his minions. ICE arresting legal citizens? Straight to jail. Barring lawmakers from detention facilities? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Pointing cops at ICE - suddenly I don’t care that US cops are trigger happy
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Oh, you mean like how he was impeached in his first term in office and nothing changed?
Both impeachments were acquitted by the Senate after the House passed them.
Point taken, but I don’t see it going any differently this time around.
Nope. Its theater.
Yeah lets impeach the already twice impeached president, surely third times the charm… right guys ?
/s
I think Rachel Maddow has his tax returns, WE GOT HIM
Emoluments abuse should be open and shut.
And yet here we are, winning bigly in the Middle East.
Are you ?
Only impeachment that will matter is a vigilante with better aim
In 2001 when The US authorized use of force on Al-Qaeda that, along with The 1973 war powers resolution gave the president (as in the position of president, not just Bush) unlimited ability to bomb anyone loosely associated with Al-Qaeda in perpetuity.
It’s what allowed Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and then Biden, and now Trump again, to use the military as they see fit for performing military operations against basically any state and group in the middle east.
This is sadly likely the least impeachable thing he’s done in office.
The US authorized use of force on Al-Qaeda
Is that even needed? The War Powers Act
requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States
Congress can still be notified, and 60 days haven’t elapsed.
Edit: Nevermind. I now see unless war is declared, the president requires specific statutory authorization or a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
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Why would we use force on our allies in Syria?
Remove Trump now!
“hey buddy, you know how you’re the president of a country here, right?”
“Yes I’m the most beautiful, fluctuant, prescient president of all time, so says the people. I don’t know if it’s true, but that’s what people are saying”
“Uh… Ok? Anyways, how would you like to be president of a whole fucking planet?!?”
“This is what the world needs, a leader to take it into dysplasia. Who else could do it but me? This new one world government and state will need a name. Well call it fantasia, and it will be wonderful.”
“Sure, sure, fantasia sounds beautiful. We’ve already built you the thrown right here. Strap in, your sovereignty”
“I’m going to turn this wasteland, into, you know, a utopia for all rich white Americans”
“Uh huh” tightens seat harness “you snug Mr. President?”
“Well I think you’re a loser because this is too tight. You’re fired, get me someone who can make this right.”
“Oh I am making it right, sir, just give me a second, I apologize.” Leaves capsule
[Starship explosion noises]
“Fackin whoops”
Oop, that’s another impeachable offense in the pile.
Yep just add it to the list
100 impeachable offenses you must try before you die
