huh
That… Actually seems like not that bad of an idea (at least for forum/reddit/lemmy bots)
Well, if you ignore the infeasibility aspect of getting the humans to cooperate and stuff
Well, if you ignore the infeasibility aspect of getting the humans to cooperate and stuff
Don’t you fucking tell me what to do!
gets mace
Yes silly humans, fight amongst yourselves
Is it really such a bad thing when the humans that are unable to cooperate do not get access?
Wasn’t that basically the intention behind the Upvote and Downvote systems in Lemmy, StackExchange/Overflow, Reddit, or old YouTube? The idea being that helpful, constructive comments would get pushed to the top, whereas unhelpful or spam comments get pushed to the bottom (and automatically hidden).
It’s just that it didn’t really work out quite the same way in practice due to botting, people gaming the votes, or the votes not being used as expected.
But what if someone else makes a bot not to answer things but to rate randomly if an answer is constructive or not?
“Only human intelligence can solve” gives answer
Levels of smart and dumb. Facepalm moment.
I think the response is meant to be tongue in cheek.
If that’s chatGPT it’s supposedly programed to stop looking further at a site when it encounters a captcha. So that response would make sense.
At this rate Skynet will be like “I’m going to nuke the world on X data, I’ve already taken over all the launch computers, but I’m not going to tell you or it would ruin my plans.”
These LLMs “think” by generating text, and we can see what that text is. It reminds me of this scene from Westworld (NSFW, nudity): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnxJRYit44k
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In fairness, that style of captcha has been broken for a while, hence why they’re not still in use.
Is this real lol?
online study
not peer reviewed
“published” on arxiv (which is a public document server, not a journal)
study and authors not named or linked in the articletl/dr: “Someone uploaded a pdf and we’re writing about it.”
I mean its pretty obvious that nowadays AI is absolutely capable of doing that and some people are just blind or fat finger the keyboard.
I mean, it is The World’s Hardest Game
We all knew this day would come, now it’s just a matter of making different captcha tests to evade these bots
They were never a test to evade bots to begim with, most capchas were used to train machine learning algorithms to train the bots on ! Just because it was manual labour google got it done for free , using this bullshit captcha thingy ! We sort of trained bots to read obsucre texts , and kinda did the labour for corps for free !
I heard Captcha was being used as training data for self-driving cars. Which probably explains why almost all of them ask you to identify cars, motorcycles, bridges, traffic lights, crosswalks etc.
Both are right. The older ones with squiggly letters, numbers or that ask you to identify animals or objects were being used to train ai bots.
The ones that ask for crosswalks, bikes, overpass, signs etc are used to train self driving ai.
Which made me wonder why (1) it would reject invalid answers and (2) it would confuse things no human would, eg "Bus bus bus… no that’s a van, that’s clearly a van, it has Bob’s Plumbing written on it… it won’t let me get past without clicking on the van sigh.
I mean, if the aim is to train an AI, why are you ignoring the human’s answers? How do you say “No this isn’t a f—ing bus you idiot” to the captcha system? I never saw anything allowing us to do that.
The first captcha they already knew the answer to. The second captcha was to build the database.
Pretty sure I’ve had “click all bicycles”, with a bicycle drawing on the road.
I thought this was a rumor?
Edit: Nevermind. Looked it up.
Yeah thats pretty much what it is being use for now
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Or the other approach, make it even harder for humans
…which is the current trend.
New Captcha question: Does pressing a controller’s button harder make the character’s action more impactful?
if answer = yes : human
if answer = no : bot
if answer = depends on the game and system : gamer
If answer = depends on the hardware : engineer
It’s my fault. I get those wrong on purpose out of spite
I thought Captcha tests were being used to train image recognition systems no?
Bots picking the questions, bots answering them. They clearly understand whatever the fuck the captcha bot thinks a bus is better than I do.
There is considerable overlap between the smartest AI and the dumbest humans. The concerns over bears and trash cans in US National Parks was ahead of its time.
Still can’t get in to archive.ly ;-)
So is it time to get rid of them then? Usually when I encounter one of those “click the motorcycles” I just go read something else.
It’s a double-edged sword. Just because it doesn’t work perfectly doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.
To a spammer, building something with the ability to break a captcha is more expensive than something that cannot, whether in terms of development time, or resource demands.
We saw with a few Lemmy instances that they’re still good at protecting instances from bots and bot signups. Removing captchas entirely means erasing that barrier of entry that keeps a lot of bots out, and might cause more problems than it fixes.
So that’s OK - you ‘passed’? You’re a bot!
Ez. Only allow access when they score 70 to 80.
Curious how this study suggesting we need a new way to prevent bots came out just a fews days after Google started taking shit for proposing something that among other things would do just that.
I’ve had to do 15 different captcha tests one after the other and they still wouldn’t validate me today.
